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    Welcome ShariM!

    There are a whole collection of great reasons to homeschool in the previous postings ^^^^ The point is that homeschooling is done for MANY other reasons other than religious ones. Many reasons that include a better, more individualized education, ability to accommodate a child's uniqueness/challenges, and time management flexibility. I wonder if maybe that is why you asked.....maybe you thought religion was the ONLY reason?

    It is such a personal choice with tons of reasons and benefits. I don't have a special needs child, or an uber-brainiac kid either. My two boys are pretty much "average kids". It's a lifestyle choice for us first and foremost.....just like choosing to homeschool for religious reasons.

    There is no god that called anyone to homeschool, really. I'll argue that all religious homeschoolers are making a lifestyle choice. So now we are just discussing if homeschooling can be a good way to educate a child, right? YES, it definitely can be....but isn't the only way.

    So really, you need to ask yourself the questions. If it is purely for a lifestyle choice...do you and your kids enjoy it? Can you afford the time, effort, money, etc....?

    Hope this helps....and nice to have you here with us
    Homeschooling two sons (14 and 16) from day one. Atheist.
    Eclectic, Slackschooler covering 8th and 10th grades this year.

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    Hello, have you seen this thread:

    https://www.secularhomeschool.com/in-...tml#post216798

    The last page, particularly FreeThinker's post, is going to be my personal "go to" when I get frustrated with all the negative changes in the homeschooling movement (if we can still call it a "movement" instead of a "target market", lol) that you and I have seen.

    Have you ever had a child in public school? One of mine caved to family pressure that we "couldn't afford" to homeschool about ten years ago. Public school turned out to be very expensive financially as well as essentially destroying our family.

    Since you are newly deconverted you may not be aware of the history of the secular homeschooling community. Maybe I can help:

    GWS Issue Archives

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    http://ceanet.net/wsfhfinal.pdf

    ^That one is not likely to improve my popularity among the young 'uns on the forums, lol, but whether you see the predictions as having come to pass or nothing but a bunch of FUD, it is still of historical significance and eloquently describes what was so special about the secular homeschooling movement in 2003.

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    ^This is what happened to Home Education Magazine, and why I cannot link you to a page with years and years of archives as I did with GWS. the magazine went under and the website went down shortly thereafter. All I know is what Helen told me in a private email: that she feels we won the most important parts of the battle. I trust her on that--as bad as things my seem right now to us old timers, they are infinitely better than they could have been.

    You can still find collections of HEM articles in bound book form at various online used booksellers and perhaps at your local library or through ILL:

    http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/Sear...eschool+Reader

    Speaking of books, are you familiar with David Alpert's And The Skylark Sings With Me:

    https://www.amazon.com/Skylark-Sings...+Sings+With+Me

    which was published in 1999, and/or Nancy Wallace's Better Than School:

    https://www.amazon.com/Better-Than-S...er+Than+School

    which was published by a secular homeschooling pioneer in 1983?

    Wendy Prietznitz is the mother of two homeschooled fortysomethings and somebody I still feel reasonably comfortable recommending to new unschoolers, if that is how you roll (and even if it isn't and you just need some inspiration):

    http://www.lifelearningmagazine.com/...g_Magazine.htm

    Since you are recently deconverted, I also wanted to share a site that helped me when I was going through all that even though it has absolutely NOTHING to do with homeschooling:

    http://www.ex-christian.net/

    I can only imagine what you must be going through and what a difficult time this must be for a newly exited Christian who is also a homeschool veteran. The ages of my kids are in my signature. Please remember that this is only one chapter in the story, not the whole story.

    The reasons we homeschooled our bigs are still relevant for our littles, but perhaps even more pressing and important in 2016. If you do not feel at home in a world of public charter schools and multi-hundred dollar scripted curriculum products, perhaps you will find kindred spirits among these pioneers and come to see yourself as a pioneer as well.

    My interwebz peeps are reading and I hope they understand that I mean no offense to their bright shiny young faces, but I can also imagine how bewildered you must be, Shari, so if you need to vent about kids these days and what's wrong with the world and Helena Handbasket, that's okay too and there's a private message feature in the forum software.

    Yes, it matters. What you have given your bigs was valuable. What you still have to give your littles is important. First you cry and then you go on.
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    Ief you should blog this post so you can link it later. Thanks for the resources. Now the big decision - do I skip my nap to read about homeschooling? Yeah probably.
    I'm a work-at-home mom to three, homeschool enthusiast, and avid planner fueled by lattes and Florida sunshine. My oldest is 6 and is a fircond grader (that's somewhere between first and second, naturally), my preschooler just told me she wants to learn how to read, and my toddler is a force of nature.

    I gather all kinds of secular homeschool resources and share them at TheHomeschoolResourceRoom.com.

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    After 30 years of believing a lie about Christianity makes me question whether or not I can trust my own judgement regarding what I've heard and believed about homeschooling/public schooling. It really shakes up what you think is true and not.

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    Thanks for the response and links. They're in public school right now and are enjoying it. I'm considering it a break and learning experience for them. I honestly don't think they'll be learning much academically, but they really wanted to experience the social aspect of it. I wrote a different set of goals for the year because of it.

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    I think it's a great idea to step back and get a whole different perspective. Just remember that if you and the family decide you miss homeschooling, and want to do it in a secular fashion this time, this is a great place to get support.

    I hope you stick around, even though your kids are in public school, and dig through the numerous threads we've got
    Homeschooling two sons (14 and 16) from day one. Atheist.
    Eclectic, Slackschooler covering 8th and 10th grades this year.

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    ShariM, I grew up in a religious environment. Private religious school, church 3-4 times a week, everything revolved around the religion. And I left it 16 years ago. It has taken YEARS to deprogram myself. You CAN trust yourself. IT may take a bit. But, we don't blame children for believing in Santa, Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy. Don't blame yourself for believing what you were taught. Don't doubt yourself because you believed what you were told to believe. It is HARD. There are a few support groups out there for former christians who are now atheists. Find one that fits you.


    As for why I homeschool?
    Control. The schools wanted WAY more control of my life and my child than I was willing to give them.
    Flexibility. I love being able to school when we want, how we want, where when want. If we need a mental day, I don't have to worry about getting a doctor's note.
    Freedom. We can learn what WE want, not what the schools say he has to learn by a certain date. We've gone in depth into space and anatomy, but are still working on basic handwriting and addition.
    Religion. Or the lack thereof. In the Bible Belt where I live, even in Public Schools there is no escaping the pervasiveness of religion.

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    ShariM, do you have a CFI (Center for Inquiry) chapter in your area? I know the one near me has regular meet-ups for people who have left their religion. The hardest part is usually the loss of community. Hope this helps.

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    Hi ShariM - welcome to the forums. I hope your journey away from your religion is a good one for you and your kids.

    IEF - thanks for the links - I've been reading the articles on the Life Learning Magazine site - they're awesome!

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