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    Pretty quilt AM.

    So how does it work for state borders in the US, if some areas are bad and some are not, are people allowed to travel in between by car/plane etc.? Since it seems to be transported round by people who do not know they are unwell yet, that would worry me. Pretty much all of the NZ cases can be linked to overseas travel, either people who have travelled overseas themselves or who have been in contact with someone who has been overseas. There are some that are not, but that is the main driver of it here. They are only letting in citizens and permanent residents of NZ now and even when they come in, they have to be quarantined for 2 weeks if they cannot get to their place of self-isolation in a private car (no domestic flights unless you are an essential worker like in healthcare).
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    All our hardware stores are only open to trade customers, not the general public, to get things they would need to do essential repairs if someones plumbing or roof breaks and so forth. Nursery stores are shut. They had a run on people buying up vege seedlings here before they shut. We are going into winter though so it is only the winter veg that you can put in like cauli, broccoli, cabbage. We have just been harvesting our pumpkins. I picked 7 yesterday and have another 10 or 11 to pick. We also have a lot of apples, spinach, and beetroot.
    New Zealand-based freelance science copyeditor. Homeschooling DD 11 (year 7) and DD 6 (year 2).

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    Quote Originally Posted by NZ_Mama View Post
    Pretty quilt AM.

    So how does it work for state borders in the US, if some areas are bad and some are not, are people allowed to travel in between by car/plane etc.? Since it seems to be transported round by people who do not know they are unwell yet, that would worry me. Pretty much all of the NZ cases can be linked to overseas travel, either people who have traveled overseas themselves or who have been in contact with someone who has been overseas. There are some that are not, but that is the main driver of it here. They are only letting in citizens and permanent residents of NZ now and even when they come in, they have to be quarantined for 2 weeks if they cannot get to their place of self-isolation in a private car (no domestic flights unless you are an essential worker like in healthcare).
    Flights and interstate travel are still on. I know parents of some college kids are still needing to get them home. Unfortunately, I predict this will last much longer here than we expect because so many are not following the recommendations. Just today, now 2 weeks into the self-isolating, I'm still seeing runners in close packs. I'm still hearing of college kids who have come back from spring break and now hang out together on campus, even though they were strongly urged to just GO HOME.

    DH says it's their problem, but it's not--it's society's problem. The longer this stretches on, the more people that will be sick, the more people that will lose jobs or businesses, the more people will suffer from anxiety and depression.

    On the plus side, my daffodils are finally blooming, a week after our most recent snow!
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    We are shut down completely for internal transport of any kind between areas or regions since March 27. The only people allowed to travel around the country are essential workers (e.g., people moving food or mail around the country, or if healthcare professionals need to travel). The students were mid-semester here when the universities all shut down, and they initially had 2 days to get home before the block on domestic travel. That got extended to 4 days when so many struggled to get home because of a lack of flights. So I imagine even though we are all under quite strict lockdown now, we will see cases rise for a while yet after that large rearrangement of an age group that can only have mild symptoms and socialize a lot and closely.

    Couriers are only delivering essential items (e.g., food), so most online shopping is also shut down.

    Most people here are being pretty good about staying home. Lots of people out walking as it is about one of the only things you are allowed to do (they have said no risky activities like swimming, hunting, hiking, surfing etc. as if you get hurt or lost, you use up healthcare time that is needed elsewhere).

    I appreciate its a much more difficult situation to control in the US. Hope you all stay safe.

    Yay for daffodils!
    New Zealand-based freelance science copyeditor. Homeschooling DD 11 (year 7) and DD 6 (year 2).

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    On the travel restrictions note, just saw this comparison of NZ and US in a news article:
    https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/...z-us-lockdowns

    Hope they cut down the number of those flights for you all sometime soon!
    New Zealand-based freelance science copyeditor. Homeschooling DD 11 (year 7) and DD 6 (year 2).

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    I think logistically its a lot harder to control Americans. where family members are also spread among 3000 miles. (Double that if you include Alaska and Hawaii.) Some states are trying to quarantine anyone entering the state, but it seems relatively unenforceable.
    Hawaii has been doing its best, this article touches on some of their troubles.
    https://www.hawaiipublicradio.org/po...ravel#stream/0

    New Mexico has a similar 14 day quarantine period (I only know because we cancelled our spring vacation there). But it seems the most the governors can do is ask nicely, that enforcing it would be legally and logistically impossible.
    Even our idiotinchief calls it “social distancing guidelines”, and has somehow made it into a political issue, where his sycophants are saying the pandemic “is no big problem”, and “stopping the economy would be worse than what this flu would bring”. So with half the country not taking it seriously, what can be expected?
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    Quote Originally Posted by inmom View Post
    I'm still seeing runners in close packs.
    This makes me nuts. I want to shout "Really?! You are a grown adult, and you can't run alone?!" DH says public shaming may start soon.

    For the most part, I think people are fairly compliant here in NM. Our Governor has been fairly aggressive in her measures, she was the director of Public Health here for years, so I'm sure that helps. NM actually has some teeth in these orders, so they can use law enforcement to cite and enforce the law. However, I would assume they will focus more on businesses vs. individual people, due more so to resources than anything.
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    Yes I appreciate it is a difficult situation to control. I wish you all the best of luck in this.

    Many families in NZ are also spread far apart. There are children from split families who can now only see one parent, adult children that don't live near their parents, etc.. Technically we are not allowed out of our local area (suburb of the city you live in). So even if you live in the same city, you are not going to see each other.

    I think the main difference here is that although we are diverse in lived experiences, beliefs, and opinions, the majority of people, despite all the economic side effects of a strict lockdown, can see the benefit of this and will work towards it. The different political parties in the government are also working together on it rather than trying to have political bickering in the midst of it. It is an election year but the main opposing political party (we have multiple not just two like you guys) has called off their campaigning and said they will support the current government in any way they can.

    It is also easier to see it potentially working if we shut off our borders (we lose tourism, which is big, but it is possible) and all stay at home for a long enough time.
    New Zealand-based freelance science copyeditor. Homeschooling DD 11 (year 7) and DD 6 (year 2).

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    For us, no it has not really changed anything. We are sort of hermits by nature. However, now that we have just moved to a new state, and the girls need to make friends, we are trying to meet up with someother families and that is a slow process.
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