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    Default Roll Call, 3/15 Beware the Ides of March....or Happy St. Patrick's Day?!?

    Of course the weather is still crazy for everyone, it seems. 65 degrees yesterday with threat of tornadoes and in the 30s today with rain and snow.

    It's been a crazy week here. DH came home with the flu after travels to North Carolina for biz. It hit him hard--102 fever, passed out one night while getting a drink. He's just now, a week, later, feeling slightly human again. Of course, Mr. Invincible did not get a flu shot this year.....

    On the plus side, DS was home for a few days on spring break from Purdue. I know it's a mom thing to say, but WOW he's turned into such a neat young man. For those struggling with teen boys right now, it WILL get better. When this boy was 14-15, we all wanted to throttle each other's neck. Now we truly enjoy each other's company.

    DD is on break next week, but we won't see her. She graduates in about 6 weeks and has been working on a senior research thesis--she doesn't have that much time to goof. Now if she knew what she's doing upon graduation, that would be great......

    Lately I've been making lesson plans for a new math class offering next year consisting of a semester of Statistics and a semester of Trig. I've always loved statistics since I took my first course. It's math with a reason!!

    So what's been going on for you? How is homeschooling going? Been able to work on your hobbies? Have you been able to fend off irritating friends and relatives regarding your life decisions?? Come on, spill!!
    Carol

    Homeschooled two kids for 11 years, now trying to pay it forward


    Daughter -- a University of Iowa graduate: BA in English with Creative Writing, BA in Journalism, and a minor in Gender, Women & Sexuality Studies

    Son -- a Purdue University senior majoring in Computer Science, minoring in math, geology, anthropology, and history

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    You know, I don't think I ever knew what I wanted to do, and still don't. But I have always managed to do something. So don't worry about your daughter too much Inmom, she will figure something out.
    New Zealand-based. DD 11 (year 6 [NZ system]) homeschooled, and DD 6 (year 1 [NZ system]) who is currently trying out public school.

    Freelance copyeditor, specializing in scientific text, who will make mistakes in my posts (I don't self-edit).

    That's a kea (NZ parrot) in my avatar. You can learn about them on Beak & Brain - Genius Birds from Down Under on Netflix.

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    Ha, I intended that post to be longer, but hit publish when I was in the midst of telling DD10 off about about bugging DD5.

    Oh man, the flu sounds bad. Glad to hear he is feeling better. And that is so rewarding to see your son like that. I hope my DD10 grows up to be less abrasive.

    But mostly, we are just all sad about the happenings in NZ to be honest. There are many refugees and immigrants in our community and we really value everything they bring to our society, so it is sad that some people live with such animosity towards them that they would do such a horrible thing.
    New Zealand-based. DD 11 (year 6 [NZ system]) homeschooled, and DD 6 (year 1 [NZ system]) who is currently trying out public school.

    Freelance copyeditor, specializing in scientific text, who will make mistakes in my posts (I don't self-edit).

    That's a kea (NZ parrot) in my avatar. You can learn about them on Beak & Brain - Genius Birds from Down Under on Netflix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NZ_Mama View Post
    But mostly, we are just all sad about the happenings in NZ to be honest. There are many refugees and immigrants in our community and we really value everything they bring to our society, so it is sad that some people live with such animosity towards them that they would do such a horrible thing.
    My heart just aches for all of those affected. NZ was one of the few countries, at least in my mind, where people were still civil. I think I heard that your PM stated that they've always welcomed immigrants with open arms, and will continue to do so. Kudos to her!!
    Carol

    Homeschooled two kids for 11 years, now trying to pay it forward


    Daughter -- a University of Iowa graduate: BA in English with Creative Writing, BA in Journalism, and a minor in Gender, Women & Sexuality Studies

    Son -- a Purdue University senior majoring in Computer Science, minoring in math, geology, anthropology, and history

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    I felt a little bit of despair when I saw the shooting on my news feed. I always thought NZ was such an acadian place, land of stunning scenery, NZMama (who can even make her own tofu), and Peter Jackson.
    I used to celebrate my birthday on the 15th (technically my grandmothers birthday), but now my baby’s birthday is on St Patrick’s Day, so we are just skipping mine for now. Its not as though I want a party and presents! DS6 (7 tomorrow) was asked whether he wanted to go to Himalayan or Sushi for his birthday (his two favorite restaurants), and he replied “Himalayan for lunch. Sushi for dinner.” He definitely takes after me!
    Before christmas, one of my friends talked me into reading the Whole30 diet book. It started me on reading about dieting and nutrition, including Penn Jilette’s book (I am not as impressed with him now that I read a book of him constantly name dropping... not my thing!) , to Dr Furhman’s nutritarian eating (at least a pound each of cooked and raw veggies per day, plus at least a cup of beans, diet focused on Greens, Beans, Onions, Mushrooms, Berries, and Seeds... and no added oil, but nuts you puree yourself are fine), to the Economists’ Diet (Take the damn responsibility for your weight, weigh yourself daily, know if you eat the burger, you need to not eat dinner, and eat lightly tomorrow. Use a scale daily to track yourself.), to Michael Pollan’s books (they had a longer hold time) (“Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants.”) I never really thought diets were worth much, but now Im even more convinced. But I am eating more veggies, and am currently exploring everything chickpea. (The kitchen timer just went off, a batch has finished cooking in the instant pot.) My favorite this week was “Spanish spinach and chickpea”, which is flavored with paprika (i thought it was only for the tops of deviled eggs!). It was supposed to be for me and the boys... but I ate a little too much to share.
    It was such a relief when the “10% Happier” book came up, so I can learn about non-woo meditation. The author, though, at this point, doesnt really sound like the kind of person I am. Maybe I just need to read something less.... autobiographical.
    And thats my written novel for a saturday evening!

    Im glad youre liking your son, Inmom! Since I started playing pokemon go with DS13, Ive started getting along much better, even though he is an annoying teenager when we are out, sometimes.
    Homeschooling DS13, DS6.

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    My spelling was fine, then my brain left me.

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    Alexsmom, you should try the cookbook I got recently from the library for the pretty cover, Zaitoun. The recipes are really good. Lots of fresh, local, simple things to make with a focus on vegetarian and vegan but with some fish and lamb recipes. It actually has a dairy-free index in the back with tens of recipes, so for me, I was so excited. But beyond dairy-free it also has heaps of other yummy food.

    A food birthday sounds great. That is pretty much what we do most years. What do you want for breakfast (usually crepes or french toast), lunch (usually out), and dinner (usually takeout at home).

    I agree on the diets. I think the main thing is to eat real food most of the time but don't deprive yourself of treats or otherwise you binge, work on recognizing your body signals (hungry, satisfied, full) so you stop at the satisfied stage, and have a focus on health/strength rather than weight (we don't even own scales in our house so if I am ever asked for my weight it is like oh X amount plus or minus 3 kg).

    Sadly NZ is not as utopian as people imagine it to be. But I never imagined that anything like this would happen here. FWIW, the person who did it is an Australian and has only been living here sporadically for about 18 months. My mum said she read something that he chose to do something here because it would have a bigger effect that in Australia.

    DD5 has a play date today, here, at our house. I so can't stand play dates. Particularly with school friends. It's like you already have five days a week from 9 am to 3 pm around these kids, if you want to blooming play with them, do.it.there, not on my time! But this kid/her parents have been asking for a weekend play date for ages, and I kind of don't want to totally put them off as they will be good to have if we homeschool again (then I am happy to do play dates). But oh man. They are being so annoying!
    New Zealand-based. DD 11 (year 6 [NZ system]) homeschooled, and DD 6 (year 1 [NZ system]) who is currently trying out public school.

    Freelance copyeditor, specializing in scientific text, who will make mistakes in my posts (I don't self-edit).

    That's a kea (NZ parrot) in my avatar. You can learn about them on Beak & Brain - Genius Birds from Down Under on Netflix.

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    I did get a hold on that book when you showed off its cover! This morning, Im #13 on 3 copies, eta 9 weeks. I think cookbooks tend to stay out longer than novels, socit just seems to take months. But I do get around to them!
    The Economists Diet says we need the scale to hold ourselves accountable. If I had seen my weight creeping up steadily, perhaps I wouldve tried changing things earlier.
    Ive been perusing a lot of (non junk food) vegan blogs for recipes, be ause that is the kind of plant based food I want to be eating. My almost dieting friend (who has pancreas failure and diabetes), was excited to find a keto-approved avocado chocolate brownie recipe. Her whole dieting paradigm has been that she doesnt want to give up her favorite foods, so I dont see how shes going to make any lasting changes. Her collapse of health is a part of whats motivating me - I want to be healthier, so I dont get to that point.

    Im sorry about your playdate discomfort. Was a parent there for you to entertain while the friend was over? For me, those are the worst, because I feel pressure to have a clean house, and to entertain the parent, and make sure theyre appropriately offered water and snacks. And polite conversation, even though Id probably rather fold laundry.
    I hope you survived it!
    Homeschooling DS13, DS6.

    Atheist.

    My spelling was fine, then my brain left me.

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    Alexsmom, I have found some decent recipes for plant based diets at The Minimalist Baker. As you know, I look for these more for the lower cholesterol content than for the "vegan-ness" of it. DH and I have always eaten a fair number of fruits and veggies, especially in the summer and fall when the veggie garden is really going. But by making at least one meal vegan/vegetarian a day, it allows DH to have a more meaty meal in the day without going over his total cholesterol limit. (He keeps it under 200 mg/day.)

    Anyway, the blogger's requirement for recipes is 10 or fewer ingredients and 30 minutes or less prep time, both of which are great for me. I just made the Roasted Veggie and Quinoa Harvest Bowl on Friday, which we enjoyed.

    From another blog, we absolutely loved the Sheet Pan Mexican Veggie Dinner. We used it as taco filling.

    I get a lot of these links from a teenaged daughter of a good homeschooling friend of mine. She's usually pretty good at selecting flavorful recipes.
    Carol

    Homeschooled two kids for 11 years, now trying to pay it forward


    Daughter -- a University of Iowa graduate: BA in English with Creative Writing, BA in Journalism, and a minor in Gender, Women & Sexuality Studies

    Son -- a Purdue University senior majoring in Computer Science, minoring in math, geology, anthropology, and history

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexsmom View Post

    Im sorry about your playdate discomfort. Was a parent there for you to entertain while the friend was over? For me, those are the worst, because I feel pressure to have a clean house, and to entertain the parent, and make sure theyre appropriately offered water and snacks. And polite conversation, even though Id probably rather fold laundry.
    I hope you survived it!
    No parent to entertain. I guess I am just used to DD having playdates with certain types of people. Homeschoolers or other like minds, and the kids have great fun together but are respectful and kind. This kid, who is lovely, just combined with DD to somehow bring out the worst in both. They ran around inside screaming, poured out half a bottle of glue when doing crafts (I can usually give DD and a friend crafts and they do it without making extra mess like this. I expect some mess but not purposefully pouring the glue out), and resorted to a lot of stuff with 5 year old toilet type language (which DD does not usually do). This kid only has two older brothers (like middle school and high school age) so I guess she might be used to playing differently. Then DD was exhausted, so it got worse. We walked round to drop this kid off and I told DD we were not staying as it was time for us to get home and cook dinner and get ready for the evening so I could start my 7 hours (estimated minimum) of work I have due today. And this kid and DD climbed up a tree at her house and refused to come down. It was super frustrating. When we did end up getting home after a lot of screaming and crying on her part, DD had like some fruit for dinner and then was fast asleep at 5.30 pm, when the evening up till about 7.30 pm is a time we usually spend doing art, games, or reading together.

    I don't know if I am strange, but with DD at school, I see school as 5-day a week play dates. So I don't think she needs to have play dates with school kids outside of school (after school or weekends) during the term. My priorities are for her to have time for herself to foster independence, creativity, and for relaxation; time for family (me, DD10, DH, my mum) because we barely see her now; and then time for friends she does not see at school because they homeschool or are at other schools. But this family, and most families at school, seem to be all "lets have an afterschool/weekend" play date. Maybe this is part of what makes me more of a homeschooler than a public schooler. I just don't see how play dates with school friends are at all important at this stage when they see them more than they see their family.

    This family have been asking for a playdate for ages. And my natural inclination was just to have a rule "we don't do play dates during the school term" but I wanted to give it a go. And it did not work. Now it is kind of awkward, because I would like to maintain a relationship with this family so we can have play dates in the school holidays, or if we homeschool again I would be happy to do afterschool/weekends. So I would like to explain somewhat and just say that play dates during the school term don't suit our family, but I don't want to offend them as it seems such a part of their value system. And on the flip side, if I don't say anything, they will just think I am fobbing them off and we don't like them.
    Last edited by NZ_Mama; 03-17-2019 at 05:46 PM.
    New Zealand-based. DD 11 (year 6 [NZ system]) homeschooled, and DD 6 (year 1 [NZ system]) who is currently trying out public school.

    Freelance copyeditor, specializing in scientific text, who will make mistakes in my posts (I don't self-edit).

    That's a kea (NZ parrot) in my avatar. You can learn about them on Beak & Brain - Genius Birds from Down Under on Netflix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexsmom View Post
    The Economists Diet says we need the scale to hold ourselves accountable. If I had seen my weight creeping up steadily, perhaps I wouldve tried changing things earlier.
    I don't know if you need scales to hold yourself accountable once you are at a healthy weight. I do see their value for weight-loss and initial maintenance of that, but then I would try wean yourself off them. I think once you get to a healthy weight, focusing on being aware of yourself—am I satisfied or still hungry?, do I feel healthy?, do I feel strong/fit?, do my clothes I usually wear still feel comfortable?, have I had many treats recently or can I indulge today?—is a healthier approach than being dependent on numbers on a scale. And to develop that self-awareness to keep within a healthy weight range (because we all have a range), you need to not have scales to do it. If you rely on scales to tell you if you are healthy, like they suggest, then you are always tied to that and will never develop self-awareness. Once you do develop the self-awareness, staying in your healthy weight range just happens without much thought or effort. Since discarding using scales in my late teens when I used them to try maintain a certain weight for rowing, and then starting a real focus on eating mainly real food (not processed) and developing self-awareness in my late 20s, I have had no issue staying within a healthy weight range for over 10 years without scales. The only times I have sporadically used scales at other people's houses or my doctor's was to check my weight when I was losing weight after pregnancy (I gained like 40–50 lbs each time!) so that I was losing as a slow but steady rate.

    **Edited to add: Usually I find this type of maintenance effortless, but if something comes up in life that puts me off balance, then I notice before it goes too far (as into having to do active weight loss efforts).** Like at the moment I know I don't feel fit or strong as I have been neglecting my exercise to do other things, I don't feel comfortable in my clothes because I have also been comfort snacking on things like dried fruit and chocolate chips from the pantry. So now is a time I am choosing not to stock my pantry with those things and really making sure I make more conscious choices about when and what to eat and get back into my exercise routine. If I weighed myself, I would probably be at the upper end of my range.

    But everyone is different! Good luck finding a method that works for you! It is really fantastic that you are working on finding a system to keep you healthy, and choosing plant-based foods when you can is great not only for you but the planet too.

    Oh, and one cookbook I don't recommend is "Plants Taste Better" it is full of pretentious, fiddly food that I can't see anyone ever making at home regularly.
    Last edited by NZ_Mama; 03-17-2019 at 07:17 PM.
    New Zealand-based. DD 11 (year 6 [NZ system]) homeschooled, and DD 6 (year 1 [NZ system]) who is currently trying out public school.

    Freelance copyeditor, specializing in scientific text, who will make mistakes in my posts (I don't self-edit).

    That's a kea (NZ parrot) in my avatar. You can learn about them on Beak & Brain - Genius Birds from Down Under on Netflix.

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