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    I think the reason Common Core math stuff is so highly scripted is because they hope to convey, regardless of whether a "retrained" teacher really gets it, the understanding that is the point of the lesson. In defense of teachers, they have to check things off boxes, not because that is what they would rather do, but because that is what they are required to do. Most I knew, would far rather teach from heart and craft, than from a script, and resent having to conform so rigidly.

    Really well-versed and/or experienced teachers can do a lot better than the scripts. But really inexperienced and/or uncertain teachers benefit from it.
    It's a mixed bag.

    Homeschooling is no exception: if you really grok the math on a deep level, you can knock it out of the park, at least to the extent of your kid's willingness to listen. But if you really don't get the reasons why, yourself, and can only repeat the directions or steps, the script might make the teaching more effective.

    I think most teachers wish they weren't so constrained, and had smaller classes and thus more time for listening to each student.

    Your son's desert ecosystem project sounds amazing! Homeschooling does offer amazing benefits too, if done with heart. Sounds like you're doing a great job!
    Middle-aged mom of 4 kids spanning a 10-year age range, homeschooling since 2009, and a public school mom also, since 2017.

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  3. #142

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexsmom View Post

    Some days, Im really glad my kids arent dealing with this stuff. Im not often checking the web for news - is this what Id find any random day?
    I believe it is what you'd find any random day. From our very local area, with supposedly good schools, in just YESTERDAY'S news:

    After police address Valparaiso High School shooting threat, Friday was normal day



    Valparaiso Community Schools send notice about 'suspicious vehicle' near Parkview Elementary

    Carol

    Homeschooled two kids for 11 years, now trying to pay it forward


    Daughter -- a University of Iowa graduate: BA in English with Creative Writing, BA in Journalism, and a minor in Gender, Women & Sexuality Studies

    Son -- a Purdue University senior majoring in Computer Science, minoring in math, geology, anthropology, and history

  4. #143

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    As a total aside, we had a manhunt because a man drove by an elementary school and asked some kids if they had seen his dog. Police found the man and it turned out he had lost his dog and often walks by the school and thought the dog might have gone that way. He was elderly and of course cooperated with the police. Sometimes I feel like we always assume the worst and people have gone a bit crazy with worry. I don't think social media helps.

    As far as common core goes... I don't have a good answer, but teaching my 2nd grader how to regroup with math in focus has made me actually understand why I do what in math. I never knew why I carried and borrowed, just memorized it and went on, I think the why behind everything is great. I also love how they teach multiple way to do things. I think that the distributive way to do multiplication of 2 numbers times 2 numbers is way easier for my kids as they don't forget which number they put up and add the wrong ones together. I never learned multiplication that way, but I prefer it. I don't know if that is common core exactly or not, but both math mammoth and beast academy teach it this way.
    Beth
    DS16 with ASD, DD12 and DS10

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    And here is today's installment. Note it's in the same week as the others I've posted. This is also very, very local.

    Boy, 11, finds loaded gun at Portage school bus stop

    Carol

    Homeschooled two kids for 11 years, now trying to pay it forward


    Daughter -- a University of Iowa graduate: BA in English with Creative Writing, BA in Journalism, and a minor in Gender, Women & Sexuality Studies

    Son -- a Purdue University senior majoring in Computer Science, minoring in math, geology, anthropology, and history

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    I dont know how parents deal with this stuff! Do they block it out as a defense mechanism?

    Here was the highlight from this week: Elementary kid brought gun to school and shot himself. (Was in San Diego paper, not happened here.)
    Father arrested after son brought gun to elementary school and accidentally shot himself - The San Diego Union-Tribune

    Meanwhile, my (public) charter liason will be dropping off worms to go in our composter, as part of DSís science for the year. Now we can dabble with composting!
    Maybe people just dont realise they have options?
    Homeschooling DS13, DS6.

    Atheist.

    My spelling was fine, then my brain left me.

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    I think people in general just get desensitized to it. Or they think it can't happen in their area.....until it does.
    Carol

    Homeschooled two kids for 11 years, now trying to pay it forward


    Daughter -- a University of Iowa graduate: BA in English with Creative Writing, BA in Journalism, and a minor in Gender, Women & Sexuality Studies

    Son -- a Purdue University senior majoring in Computer Science, minoring in math, geology, anthropology, and history

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    Last year when DS was in public school kindergarten, a threat was written on a bathroom stall in the high school that worried officials enough they cancelled school district-wide for a couple days so they could investigate. Once it was determined to be non-credible, school was let back in. That first day back, one of my son's fellow kindergarten classmates pretended to shoot their teacher in front of everyone.

    I thought it was fucked up, but everyone else seemed to think that child didn't understand the magnitude of that action so no big deal. Say wha? I volunteered in that class - that kid definitely knows what guns are and that they can hurt people (he confided to me that his dad got severely injured overseas while serving in the military). That wasn't the whole reason we decided to homeschool but nowadays I do feel like it's just a matter of time before it affects every single community. But yes, I think kids are exposed to violence far earlier than what I remember being exposed to, and I grew up with police.

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    For the older kids, how much is it now a "plan" to try to disrupt school? From this morning's paper. Again, I'm not searching this out statewide. All of these have taken place about 10 miles from my home.

    Valparaiso student threatened to 'shoot up the school' on social media post
    Carol

    Homeschooled two kids for 11 years, now trying to pay it forward


    Daughter -- a University of Iowa graduate: BA in English with Creative Writing, BA in Journalism, and a minor in Gender, Women & Sexuality Studies

    Son -- a Purdue University senior majoring in Computer Science, minoring in math, geology, anthropology, and history

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