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    Default Gah. It's been a long time since I had to deal with administration....

    and I'd forgotten how exhausting it is!
    Took DS down to the CC to register for Dual enrollment (Early College is what it is called here).
    Waded through the first set of windows/people-where they kept the ACT score report.
    Then they sent us down to advising-where the advisor said, " We do not advise. You are responsible for advising. If you (meaning me) mess it up, it's your fault." I kid you not.

    So, we had decided that the best class for E. would be Chemistry. It's a favorite subject, he's very strong in it, and we felt it would be a good place for him to start. He still needs a British Lit. class for graduation, so Eng 101/102 is for next year.
    So then the "advisor" says he can't take it because he hasn't taken a math class there yet. He points to a chart and says if he has a 19 on the ACT math, he should take Math 109, and a 22 should take Math 110.
    I told him that he had a 34 on the ACT math section, and the man didn't know what to do. He didn't believe me (remember, they had my score report at registration-down the hall), as apparently they didn't enter the scores correctly. We asked if he could take the math placement test, and if he exempted out of Math 109/110, could he take the Chemistry class? He didn't know what to do. Much conferring, muttering, running back and forth occurs.
    Finally, they decide that he has to take a placement test, and if he tests into Math 130 (Beginning calculus), then they will allow him to take the class. So the testing people gave him a link to a practice test, and he looked at it when we got home. He says it shouldn't be a problem, so we'll head back tomorrow.
    We're exhausted! lol. And so it begins. And with Early College-he has to fill out an application every semester, and submit the transcripts and test scores, etc. Every.single.semester. Oh bureaucracy!

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    That sounds horrible...! (Imagine kids going through this themselves though! as probably 95% of community college kids would have to do)

    The 3 colleges here have 3 dedicated homeschool-slash-early college advisors (if you're in the few public high schools that don't offer <cough> AP in your desired subject) and I swear they are part of some kind of rewards system to get the kids in school early. They let high school kids, homeschoolers or not, register BEFORE regular students! Small town living I guess??

    Still, what bull for you. Goodness knows you'll figure it all out but that's just bureaucracy at its best/worst
    Eclectically homeschooling 8th grade dd, who likes science as much as art...

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    Ugh, that sounds horrible! And really--a 34 ACT in math should be an automatic okay for chemistry.

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    Wow! That sounds very different from here.
    A friend of mine (whose son will be a sophomore in college last year) said that our experience was not what they experienced at all. I had heard some rumblings that things were changing/getting more difficult for homeschoolers there, but I was encouraged after talking with the director on the phone yesterday. But what happens/is said at the top, often doesn't happen down the chain.
    I know this, and thought I was prepared (I had every conceivable letter/document that I thought I'd need), but it still surprised me.
    Worst case is that he'll have to take the intro math class-which won't transfer, and will cost $$, but it will get him into the science, which is what he wants. It's annoying because they won't let early college kids take more than 2 classes a semester, so we have to carefully maximize his time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyme View Post
    Ugh, that sounds horrible! And really--a 34 ACT in math should be an automatic okay for chemistry.
    Lol. That's what I thought. The pre-req said at least a "C" in high school chem. and finished Math 109/110 (college algebra). The entrance requirement for math is a 19 on the ACT. I really thought there'd be no issue with it.

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    That sounds like bs. I teach and advise at the college level.

    What I recommend is go to the college website and search "course placement scores" or "math placement scores". They should have a chart that states what scores are eligible for what classes. Students generally only take placement exams if they don't have other scores, such as the ACT.

    From there he should be able to enroll in the chemistry class, as long as he scored high enough on he ACT to be considered fulfilling the math prerequisite.
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    Mariam says fight paperwork with paperwork!! Sounds like a great idea
    Eclectically homeschooling 8th grade dd, who likes science as much as art...

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    Whew! We made it to the other side. He went in, took the test in 25 minutes, and tested into Trig or Calculus. He likes Trig, and wants to take it anyway, so...he's registered for Trig and Chemistry. Basically he went in and showed them that all of his test scores and grades were true. I really think they didn't believe us-the attitude of the advisor was completely different today.
    He's excited about it, which is good. I'm excited about it, because the total cost for both classes is a FRACTION of the cost of a math class at CTY (he was going to take pre-cal this year).
    Neither the Trig nor Calculus will transfer to the school that he's looking at, but it will be great practice for him.
    New experiences all around this year. We went and got his student ID and parking sticker, and drove around to find his buildings.
    I won't be teaching him anything this year. Feels very strange....and wonderful at the same time. He only needs 8 credits to graduate, with 4 of those being electives. He won't graduate early, but he'll have plenty of time for dual enrollment classes, which will be a good transition for him.

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    QUOTE=groovymom2000;226550]Whew! We made it to the other side. He went in, took the test in 25 minutes, and tested into Trig or Calculus. He likes Trig, and wants to take it anyway, so...he's registered for Trig and Chemistry. Basically he went in and showed them that all of his test scores and grades were true. I really think they didn't believe us-the attitude of the advisor was completely different today.
    He's excited about it, which is good. I'm excited about it, because the total cost for both classes is a FRACTION of the cost of a math class at CTY (he was going to take pre-cal this year).
    Neither the Trig nor Calculus will transfer to the school that he's looking at, but it will be great practice for him.
    New experiences all around this year. We went and got his student ID and parking sticker, and drove around to find his buildings.
    I won't be teaching him anything this year. Feels very strange....and wonderful at the same time. He only needs 8 credits to graduate, with 4 of those being electives. He won't graduate early, but he'll have plenty of time for dual enrollment classes, which will be a good transition for him.[/QUOTE]

    I'm so glad that (1) you are both now excited and (2) that you won't graduate him early. Let him explore the DE classes. He'll be so much better for it when he goes to his "4 year college" after graduation.
    Carol

    Homeschooled two kids for 11 years, now trying to pay it forward


    Daughter -- a University of Iowa graduate: BA in English with Creative Writing, BA in Journalism, and a minor in Gender, Women & Sexuality Studies

    Son -- a Purdue University senior majoring in Computer Science, minoring in math, geology, anthropology, and history

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