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    Default My daughter doesn't know the pledge, and other reasons we are weird.

    My daughter is six. She graduated kindergarten from a private Montessori school after attending for a year and a half. This is my first year homeschooling and we are having soooooo much fun.

    I've told you that so I can tell you that my daughter is also incredibly shy and while she warms up to other kids quite quickly (five minutes) it can take take forever to never if you are an adult (forget about it if you are a doctor or dentist).

    I am a brand new girl scout daisy leader and we have a very small troop of daisies and brownies. The other troop leader sent home getting to know you homework to fill out about the kids favorite things. I think a game would have been more fun but moving on... She asked each girl to stand up and talk about herself and most were able to do so. There were a few who were a little shy but their parents were there and together they got through it. Zara never volunteered of course, so she went last. I offered to help and she curled up in a ball in my lap, mumbled a few things and that was it. I didn't push more because this is girl scouts and not something that should be miserable.

    But I was getting the look. You know the one, I bet. The one that says, well if this poor unsocialized child had only been sent to school, she wouldn't be like this now. See what she's done? And in a way, I guess it's true, I did create this, but totally with genetics, heck, the kid has been to school. Her teachers loved her. They were sad to see her go. She's not freaky, just really really shy.

    But just to seal the deal on our homeschool awkwardness, my daughter does not know the pledge of allegiance. Whoops. And the other leader asked me if it was for religious reasons. Ummmmm, no. Just an oversight.

    So... I have to ask. How long do you have to homeschool before you become "one of those people" and why did no one point out that it had already happened to me?

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    My daughter doesn't know the pledge, and other reasons we are weird.
    First of all, my PLAN is to get my daughter to design a logo for me that says "we arent wierd because we home school, we home school because we're weird" and I will tie-dye them and sell them on the interwebs and at homeschool conventions and wherever homeschooling square pegs are found.

    Second of all, it suprised me when my (french canadian) husband didnt know the pledge. My kids all went to school, tho my youngest only for a year. I wonder if he knows it? There's a great youtube video by 'the whitest kids you'll ever know' or something like that . . .let me see if i can find it: Yes, watch this
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    I'm very sorry you had to deal with such blind ignorance so early in your home school journey. My eldest daughter's paternal grandmother still gives me that look every time she asks if we are home schooling still. One wouldve thought after 9+ years she would realize we have no intention of quitting. It isn't easy to be a home schooler, but even on the bad days I look at my kids and I know we are doing the right thing. My favorite place to go when my kids were around that age was the book stores. I always loved taking them there, because they would chat with older people and children alike. They became very sociable and elderly couples would always stop and ask me where my children learned such good manners. They were always so pleased to hear that we home schooled our children.

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    Lol. Thank you. That's exactly what I needed. I do think it's kind of weird how all schools start the day that way. When i was in middle school i took Latin and we learned the pledge in Latin. Hmmmmm. How many Romans pledged their allegience to the USA? I'll teach her from that video. Then they are sure to love us. Can I even admit in public that I feel a little creepy teaching her the pledge. Someone somewhere is going to climb out of the woodwork and insist I move to Canada. It's cold there. I like it here in Georgia.

    Let me know when the shirts are available. We need adult small. Child small and xsmall. They can be our new school uniform.
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    I would like a few of those shirts as well. How much you asking for each?

    Resaj, I wouldn't worry about teaching her the pledge too much. As a child, I refused to say it. They made me stand out of respect, but I wouldn't speak. I just find it insane to pledge my allegiance to a piece of cloth in honor of my country. There are so many things I could actively take part in to make my country a much better place and I just find swearing to be loyal to a flag ridiculous. It doesn't make our country a better place or actively show our pride in what we have. I'd rather spend my time teaching my children useful skills that might help our nation. I did teach them the pledge at one point, however I also taught them how I felt about reciting it too. After seeing that video, I wish I had seen that first. That is awesome and at the same time very sad, because of how true it is.

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    I don't think my 9 yr old son has ever said the pledge...ever...and I have no intentions of teaching it to him...unless he wants to know. There are other ways to show patriotism and I never knew what the pledge really meant as a child, just something we had to do everyday. I guess that makes us weird, unsocialized homeschoolers
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    I got the Intellego unit studies K-2 Civics:Symbols to use this year. We've so far only covered the flag - its history, meaning, etc. I think the next topic is learning the Pledge. We are working through this unit study SLOWLY along with the other things we are doing (for kindergarten) so we will learn it this year at some point. We are big on respecting the flag in our household (meaning we don't intentionally drop on floor or whatever) because we do understand its importance. But we aren't going to start the day with the Pledge or anything like I've read some homeschoolers do. I stopped saying it in highschool - I would only stand. Since I won't have her recite the pledge beyond learning it for the Civics unit study, she probably will only remember pieces of it, since we aren't in a setting where it is done everyday.
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    We are starting our HS day with the pledge this year (Yeah, I know, it’s shocking right?). But we aren’t doing it because I think it is important for DS to actually pledge his allegiance to the flag. I want him to memorize it because I think it is important for cultural competence (and to avoid “those looks”). I figured that if he learns it now (DS is 4) when memorization is easy it will be in his repertoire if/when he is in a situation where he needs/wants to recite it. I doubt we will continue to start our day with it beyond this year (unless he wants to) but we will probably revisit it at some point to talk about the history and meaning of the pledge in a government/civics context.
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    My kids all learned the pledge once they were IN scouts.
    So, did they SAY something that makes you think they were assuming that her issues were because she is homeschooled? Or did you make that assumption?
    Personally, I prefer to be in a homeschool group for younger scouts. My 9 and 10 year old are Juliettes this year (we do it alone, no troop). My son was in a homeschool den for his cub scout pack (him and two other boys). Now that he is a boy scout, his troop doesn't think twice about him being homeschooled.
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    Yeah, we definitely need some of those t-shirts. I say something like that all the time - my son isn't like this because we homeschool, we homeschool because he's like this. Although he's actually at the opposite extreme - he will walk up to anyone, adult or child, and just start talking to them. Asking questions, giving our family history. Most adults think it's cute, most kids find him overwhelming. Our "problems" are more extremely poor impulse control, no filter on what he says (with a tendency toward the truly inappropriate) and a tendency to get right up in people's faces. The downside to a total lack of shyness.

    My son went to Early Intervention at our elementary school from 3 to 4 years old. I think they did the pledge every day but I'm not sure. He doesn't seem to know it at all and we haven't done anything to teach it to him. I do plan to do that Intellego unit toward the end of our US History study so I guess he'll learn it then.

    My son also doesn't know how to tie his shoes or ride a bike, refuses to wear anything but sweatpants so isn't good with zippers or buttons but can figure out any video game or television remote control. I just figure those things would probably still be true with him in school.
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