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    If there's one thing I cannot stand about homeschooling issues, it's that some homeschoolers turn their latest doomsday beliefs into a homeschooling one.

    Basically, on another board, a certain homeschooler is absolutely convinced we are in the end times economically and wants to go "off the grid" so badly, she's willing to compromise everything she has and go broke by spending all of her money on cows, chickens, books, and a place to live so far up in the mountains, only "god" can find her. And she posted this on a homeschooling board, where other homeschoolers are agreeing with her.

    This peeves me because it defeats the purpose of having a homeschooling board and makes me feel unwelcome because I don't share their doomsday belief. I just don't get this line of thinking. And what's worse is that so much of our homeschooling curricula today is so religiously centered, that they are teaching this belief to their kids via the curriculum they just spent a mortgage payment on to use.

    I guess I just don't get the fear mongering. Is my family hurting right now? Yes, but not because of the economy (directly), but because our "lovely" Governor thinks teachers suck and need to be paid based on merit (which is a whole nother rant). As the wife of a teacher (and many homeschoolers are former or current ones), this is about the only thing that worries me.

    But it would be wrong of me to turn it into a homeschooling issue. So why does everything certain people say have to become the same?
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    Just because something is discussed on a homeschooling board doesnt make it a homeschooling issue. these people have just found some like-minded ppl on that forum, and are happily discussing a subject you dislike. Dont read the posts that arent of interest to you. Or stay here and wonder wtf our random posts have to do w homeschooling . . .
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    Actually, I have figured out that our random posts have much more to do with homeschooling than anything they've posted in a long while. Topsy sees to that by way of board design. Everything is controlled in such a way that we don't really have the opportunity to go off topic that much. AND, we are all a group of women that see how nonsensical some things really are and are able to reach conclusions and ends-to-means within our discussions.

    I've yet to see that on any other board.

    Really, the issue for me isn't so much that I could stop reading it (which I can, but then I wouldn't get my "funny" fix ), but that I feel we homeschoolers are hurting ourselves by allowing this kind of thinking to prevail. It has a lot to do with why there are more Christian curricula than Secular out there. Supply and demand. But then, why aren't we secular homeschoolers standing up and demanding the secular stuff?

    See what I mean?

    And mainly, I wanted to vent. LOL. Now if only I could find the time to actually write that secular curricula I have outlined........................
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    What dbmamaz said. I lurk on another board...and post JUST enough to have the required number to sell my used curricula when I'm done with it. I ONLY read threads regarding what *I* need info about and that's it. They are fruitcakes over there and I like my fruitcakes over here much better!

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    I think you and I lurk on the same board, bcnlvr (btw, love the name). Yes, they are fruitcakes and thus, my daily dose of "the funnies". I can't help but read some of the things they post and wonder just how they got this far if everything is so doomsday with them.

    But yes, I do like my fruitcakes here better. I don't even sell my stuff over there because most of it is the dread PS texts and we just cannot have those things influencing their minds!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GothicGyrl View Post
    but that I feel we homeschoolers are hurting ourselves by allowing this kind of thinking to prevail. It has a lot to do with why there are more Christian curricula than Secular out there. Supply and demand. But then, why aren't we secular homeschoolers standing up and demanding the secular stuff?
    Maybe its because I refuse to hang out on boards which i find offensive instead of helpful - since i believe they detract from the energy I have available to live my life the way I want to. BUt I dont see this at all. "hurting ourself by allowing this kind of thinking to prevail" implies that 1. you are part of a group of ppl who believe the end of the world is coming - i refuse to count myself as a member of any such group. and 2. that you can change the way other people think. Folly.

    Furthermore, secular homeschoolers ARE buying secular curriculum and passing the word around about them. I guess thats the one good thing about hanging out in those big crazy boards - maybe you can occasionally help other lost secular homeschoolers to find there way somewhere better.

    It does sound like really you just want to vent. That would make this at least the third post started on this board simply for the purpose of expressing how annoyed someone is at 'that other board'.

    which means, I suppose, that I should learn to ignore THESE posts . . . sigh
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    Well, this is the 1st thread *I* have started venting about that. Unless you are counting the HSLDA one and I only posted that in response to a post *here* regarding them.

    Second, it IS a homeschooling issue, therefore, I can post it here, no matter who I am venting about. Yes, do hang out on other boards, this isn't the only one, and yes, there are some ingrates over on those boards that nerve me. However, that doesn't mean I can't find a common place to vent or even discuss something that I see there happening that could affect other homeschoolers. YOU may not see yourself worrying over certain things, and I do not see myself doing so either.

    However, this thread wasn't just started as a vent, but more so as a way to vent OUT what we think might be causing otherwise intelligent homeschoolers to feel this way, causing new homeschoolers to join in. Maybe instead of making US exclusive, we could see ourselves as a way to seek out those on other places that are just like us and help them over to the darkside?

    Of course, you are just as free to ignore mine and other posts similar. But then, if we all did that, we'd have nothing to talk about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GothicGyrl View Post

    Really, the issue for me isn't so much that I could stop reading it (which I can, but then I wouldn't get my "funny" fix ), but that I feel we homeschoolers are hurting ourselves by allowing this kind of thinking to prevail. It has a lot to do with why there are more Christian curricula than Secular out there. Supply and demand. But then, why aren't we secular homeschoolers standing up and demanding the secular stuff?
    I can't control what other people think....wait....nope, can't do it.

    I can't demand secular materials, but they are available, and I can support that by purchasing them. This, for me, is a big reason why I avoid buying materials that have a religious orientation and "secularizing" them. When there is an alternative that is 100% secular, I will support that one instead. Also, when I use a great secular curriculum product, I publish a great review for it, in order to help promote it. I especially want to support those who bring us great products that venture into the area of evolution from a purely scientific pov. That must be a tough market....will parents with kids in public school buy it ? Probably not many of them. Homeschoolers are still a pretty small group, and when you narrow it down further, to those of us who are comfortable with studying that in-depth, in that way, I imagine that is a pretty small market. We can support those publishers..and we can support the vendors who carry those products without "screening" them through a religious filter. We can help grow and support the market for secular homeschooling materials.
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    Wait, I can't control others? Damn it, there goes that plan...

    I had a nice post all ready to go and poof, the board ate it. Suffice it to say, laundryCrisis, I agree with what you are saying, I just don't see it happening *enough* to get supply/demand to meet properly.

    I hate it when the board eats my posts.
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    Want to really get mad?? Because Hawaii Christian Home Schoolers hahah they have a thing going where they spread around that its AGAINST EVERYTHING to have a curriculum without their god. They lobby everyone they can for NOT buying any non bible based curricula. They call it "The Trojan Horse". They try and blame it on govt funded home school laws. To them its sneaking in science and history without their god and its going to ruin everything in the future.
    Here is a lil ol movie or a clip of it anyway... Idiots

    because to them, home schooling is only for christians.. or something .. and "heaven forbid" anyone who wants to should be able to. I actually DO think its like a trojan horse. The more children have access to science and how to use it, the less likely they will be susceptible to insane religious dogma even if they ARE home schooled in a religious environment. YAY technology!
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