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    OK, so now for something totally different... I'm currently reading Jo Boaler's book Mathematical Mindsets (having just read her book What's Math Got to Do With It?) and she advocates for not worrying at all about memorizing your multiplication tables. I can tell you that my 7 yo can do many multiplication problems without having ever been exposed to a times table, because he has developed a flexibility with numbers that allows him to quickly figure it out. Here's an article on Jo Boaler and the times tables: 'Times tables are not how you teach maths

    Don't shoot the messenger... it's just food for thought.

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    3rd grade for me. DS is 12 and finally knows most of them. But he has working memory issues and I gave up on him having to memorize them and let him use a multiplication table chart years ago. DH says he still doesn't know them all, and he's almost 50. And works in finance/investments. He says he knows a few "anchor" facts and can figure out the rest from there, he always has a calculator with him (iPhone), and everything "math" he has to do at work has been computerized since he started his career many years (decades, really) ago.
    homeschooling one DS, age 13.

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    I was drilled them I'm 3rd. I learned most of them.

    ds 1 and 2 were drilled in 3rd too.

    ds 3 still struggles with them at 14, but has learned "most" of them.

    Ds # 4 "should" be learning them. He knows the easy ones. (0,1,2,3,5,10,11) I haven't pushed him. #5 was introduced to them this week (10s only) and he could care less.
    ~*~*Marta, mom to 5 boys.
    DS 1 ( 19, has his associates' degree and is off to college)
    DS 2 (17 and dual enrollment in college)
    Keegan (15 and enrolled in a PPP but still has home classes)
    Sully (10 years, 4th grade)
    Finn, (9 years, 3rd grade)

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    Hi CrazyGooseLady. Both hubby and I learned them in grade 3, we were about 7 years old. I understood them pretty clearly. DD learned them at the same age...and DS at about 8. Both understand clearly. We started with real basic explanations that made it clear it was a faster way to add. I gave them tips like anything times ten you just add a zero to the end, same for hundreds, etc. (I did show them in long form, this was "true".) Also, that anything times five will end in zero or five, so if the answer they got doesn't end in this, it must be wrong. Little things like that made it interesting after memorizing the tables. DS would shoot hoops while memorizing his while DD didn't need something like that. I think it all depends on the individual child.

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    Never? I memorized most of them when I was supposed to, but never remembered the 12s, and there were a bunch I had to go back and add to get (i.e. 6x8 is 5x8 + 8). I hated timed math fact tests but otherwise had no problems, aced AP calculus in high school, and took more calculus in college.

    My 7yo 1st grader gets multiplication just fine. He'll occasionally decide to do something like figure out the volume of one of his building blocks, ending up doing something like 27x7x3.5, and he'll figure it out without memorizing times tables, just very slowly! I figure if he has the concept of what multiplication means and can use it in real life, it's no problem if it takes him forever to figure out 7x7, and I've already seen him memorize a few of them from use.

    However, we don't do long pages of math problems. Puzzles and games and challenges, fairly occasional. I think the slowness of the non-memorizing way might be more of a problem if you had a huge sheet of questions to get through. Also I've spent very little effort pushing my 7yo to learn math because he seems to know it above grade level without me trying. My 5yo doesn't understand multiplication yet--not the concept or the tables.

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    In my area public school kids dabble in multiplication in grade 2, study it intensively in third grade, and are solid by grade 4. Dedicated rote memorization was helpful in grade 3 and pays off in higher level math. I dislike drill learning as a rule except with multiplication, states, scientific classification/nomenclature, and foreign language words.
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    Second grade. Here's how we did it.
    Began with zeroes, ones, and twos (meaning 0x0 up to 2x9). Those are easiest.
    It helps to have manipulatives around the first few weeks, something concrete the kid can touch. We used piles of dry beans, stacks of dominoes, and cuisenaire rods.
    Teach one number per week. Meaning the zeroes on the first week, then the ones on the second week, the twos on the third week, etc.
    Write out all the new math facts on a sheet of paper in bright marker, in a nice neat column so the kid can see the order of the thing. Write 0x0=0 at the top, then 0x1=0, etc. all the way to 0x9=0 at the bottom. With your child, recite each of these problems (with the answers) in turn. Then do it again. The third time, the kid recites the problems by himself.
    Then reinforce it with flashcards, in the same order as the recited problems. 0x0=0, 0x1=0, and so on.
    Do the flashcards every day. As you learn new sets of numbers, add them to the pack.
    After learning the 0's, 1's, and 2's, work on the 3's and 4's. Follow with 5's (be sure to tell you kid how easy the 5's are, and he will think so too). Then 6's, 7's and 8's. 9's are also easy if you remember that all the problems add up to 9 (example, 4x9= 36, 3+6=9). The 10's and 11's are also easy.
    After teaching the 11's, expect to review the entire flashcard set every single day for a year (before regular math assignments). See how fast you can do them. Make it fun.

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