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    Hmmm. Wow. I've been off the site for a few weeks. (Out of town family invasion at my house...ugh) Now I have to go back and find out what all the hubub is about.
    And to think I just posted a Zombie Jesus reference on the easter poll! LOL! I thought is was something my nephews came up with.....and I've been atheist my entire life.
    I don't think I'm an "angry atheist". (which seems to be what most xtains I've encountered would label ANY atheist) I just try to have a sense of humor. Some people don't find it funny though when they say "bless you" if I've sneezed and then I reply with "yeah, yeah, whatever". I guess that goes to the point that it goes both ways. People who are believers don't understand how exhausting it is dodging that crap all the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muddylilly View Post
    Hmmm. Wow. I've been off the site for a few weeks. (Out of town family invasion at my house...ugh) Now I have to go back and find out what all the hubub is about.
    And to think I just posted a Zombie Jesus reference on the easter poll! LOL! I thought is was something my nephews came up with.....and I've been atheist my entire life.
    I don't think I'm an "angry atheist". (which seems to be what most xtains I've encountered would label ANY atheist) I just try to have a sense of humor. Some people don't find it funny though when they say "bless you" if I've sneezed and then I reply with "yeah, yeah, whatever". I guess that goes to the point that it goes both ways. People who are believers don't understand how exhausting it is dodging that crap all the time.
    I totally get you on the uninvited sneezing. I taught my boy to say Gehzuntheit.

    I had meant it meanly, at the time, and in context.

    Kidding about it is different.
    Zombie Jesus is what easter is all about, isnt it? Chocolate eggs actually represent decaying brains that zombies like to feed on. Just saying.
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    Since the inception of this forum, I have loved the fact that I have a place to go, where there are other homeschoolers, and I don't have to deal with a constant barrage of Xtian content.

    But I have also always appreciated when I came here how respectful ppl generally were. Total breath of fresh air, that, and not all that common. I have been playing on homeschool forums for like 15+ years. This is a special place, imo.

    I don't know how I feel about an *area* for that kind of discussion, tho. It is kinda like when the SL forums did the whole "brown forums" for ppl who wouldn't agree to not post anything that "could sway others from the (SL-approved) faith system." It was kind of pointless. And not really useful in any way.

    It just seems that this a secular board, and should remain so.

    (but just as a side note...and it really is no big deal, I know it is *my* issue, lol...it does get just a bit tedious that "religion" and "christian" seems to be used interchangeably. The actual curricula I buy is 100% secular (unless I've been duped & didn't realize! LOL). But the idea that the majority of religious homeschool boards welcome *any* religion is laughable. I once saw a poll on a Xtian hs board, asking if ppl would be more upset if their child decided they were atheist or pagan. Overwhelmingly, the response was that they would rather their children were atheist. So go figure. )
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    I've been out of town for a few days, and didn't get to see this feedback thread until just now. I'm going to do something weird and link back to the very first article I ever posted when I created SecularHomeschool.com....

    The Secular Homeschool Community - The Elephant In The Room

    Does it help, overall, with determining the true nature of how to construct the site forums to address Misha's original question? Probably not a lot. But it WILL give you a sense of where I'm coming from in my overall conception of what the site is about.


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    Here's the problem, Topsy, and maybe you can clarify?

    We just had a thread shut down because someone came in and promoted religious curriculum as viable option for secular homeschooling...ie: you can just ignore the religious parts.

    I posted my opinion that I would never use such a curriculum because it is based on thinking that I find irrational, offensive, and I gave some very specific criticisms I have of Christianity. My post was considered to be offensive by some, but I don't think it was. It was my honest, very sincere belief.

    My post was not directed AT the poster as a human being, etc. It was a response...that addressed WHY I would never never use religious curriculum. Was it very very FRANK? Yes it was. Was it my opinion...yep.

    I'm not condoning the idea of making random attacks on people just because they are Christian or whatever other faith......but I DO think I should be able to respond with my VERY FRANK opinion when they're trying to sell me a load of horseshit that you can "Secular Homeschool using religious materials" And I think I should be allowed to offer my criticisms of those beliefs.

    If we are so tolerant....that we allow discussion of the value Christian curriculum here.....surely we should also tolerate dissenting views about Christianity, no? That's my feeling, anyway.

    If one perspective is expected to buck up and ignore what they don't like.....shouldn't the other perspective have the SAME burden of tolerance for things they don't like?

    If someone here is talking fondly about Christian curriculum, don't I have a right to say.....Yuck, no, and here's why....because I think the people who believe that crap are willfully ignorant and dangerous? I do believe that, incidentally. In fact, it's a huge part of why I home schooled.

    If we want to ban religious criticism in all it's forms, can we also ban religious promotion in all it's forms?
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    Agreed indeed.

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    Nobody other than batmanswife wrote their offense about what was said about *what christians believe*. And she apparently didnt realise that this was a secular site. She was the one who said if you want to mention the sacred holy of religion to go do it in some dark corner where nobody will see.
    I think Cara and a few others were upset that we were not being helpful and nice to jenniblue22.
    Yuck though.
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    CrazyMom and alexsom - Did either of you actually read the post that Topsy linked?

    "A secular homeschooler is a person who, whether or not they ascribe to any particular religious faith, is not homeschooling for religious reasons, but because it is the best choice for themselves and their child(ren)."


    There are people who feel they can secularly homeschool by adjusting religious curriculum. You have a right not to feel that is the way you want to go, but others have the right to see that as a viable option. Both views should be welcome and tolerated. You two repeatedly seem to think that your opinion should be the final say and others (jenniblue22) should stop posting once you've had your say. Why is your view the only one? Secular means many things to many people. Please respect that and move on.
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    When someone is posting 28 curriculum related posts to the same thread in a 3 hour time frame...mentioning dozens and dozens of curriculum by name....it does kinda make you wonder of they're really here for advice...or here to seed a social media site with band names and links for search engines. (seeding social media sites is a cottage industry) I wasn't the only one who thought there was something very unusual about her story and her posting behavior.

    And then there's the question of how you expect to be received, and how helpful people can be....when you come to a secular site and ask for "the best religious curriculum that can be adapted to secular homeschooling...where the parents are too busy to sit down with the kids."

    What do you even do with that?
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    Secular Homeschool curriculum....by definition....is Secular.
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