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    Quote Originally Posted by alexsmom View Post

    The RR stuff with spray on coating was done in Thailand, are they any better than China, or just smaller scale so incidents of industrial lying dont have quite the reputation as they do in China? (Is the non-stick coating applied in "less regulated" countries to avoid US environmental and health laws?)

    And then is the spray-on nonstick paranoia the same as the no-plastics paranoia, and the no-China paranoia?

    I just want to be able to make cheese sauces without it burning or sticking to the pot.
    There are always lots of things to consider, and it makes buying difficult, but its great that you think about it. Beyond the what is in the enamel, enameling is a pretty horrible process for the environment.

    Teflon and other non-stick coatings are bad for your health if you end up eating bits of them or inhaling stuff from them, but you can use them safely. Pretty much like most chemicals, use it safely and its ok. Just make sure you replace anything if the coating gets scratched or starts or flake, and don't leave a pan heating with nothing in it because then you will heat the coating not oil or food and it could cause something to volatilize from the coating or damage it and cause it to flake.

    Yes environmental regulations in all of Asia are pretty lax compared to elsewhere. Although China is aiming to get better, and scientists there are working hard on manufacturing and environmental issues. However, you guys could have similar issues down the track with Trump wanting to bring all the manufacturing back to the USA and at the same time get rid of or drastically change any regulation (EPA and climate agreements).

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    I love my Tramontina. I wouldn't spring for the good stuff (aka the All Clad) and this was rated close behind. It's mainly sold at Wal-Mart, but don't let that discourage you. It's really good. Heats very evenly.

    I don't believe in "non-stick" - that stuff is always bad. And you can't use metal in it.
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    Farrar, do you put your Tramontina in the dishwasher? I asked on Amazon, only response was that I should see hand washing as a form of exercize.

    Fear of scratching the surface of a "non-stick" is a big consideration for me. My serving spoons are metal, itd be nice to not be paranoid that Im going to ruin the pot by scooping food out a little too vigorously. (And Im in a house full of non-cooking boys.)
    I have a rubber / silicone / synthetic-mystery-material whisk, but whisking really seems to be more effective with the metal ones.
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    No. I don't. I'm thinking it would be fine for the cooking surface but that it would tarnish the exterior.

    If that's really the most important element to you, I'm thinking enameled cast iron is the way to go. You can totally put that stuff in the dishwasher. And it doesn't scratch too easily, though it can scratch. But if it does - it's not unsafe the way nonstick surfaces can become.
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    Have you looked at Bialetti? I have some of their stuff....a few fry pans.....I use it A LOT, for over a year now and I'm not gentle! I use metal utensils occasionally too. No scratches!

    I do love my cast iron, but they are heavy, and not great for things with acid....think tomato.

    I use a little spray, occasionally a fried egg might stick a little, but I don't think "non-stick" is actually always a sure fire name. Omelettes are easy and scrambled eggs are great in this pan! Everything always washes out easily.

    Thinking about buying more to add to my set. DH killed my smallest saucepan (farberware, almost burned the house down!) and now I need to replace.

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