View Full Version : Teaching Textbooks

04-07-2010, 03:18 PM
Okay, I am considering using this resource "next year" for my 9yo 4th grader. He doesn't do well with textbooks or workbooks (thinks most on his level are babyish because of the graphics or themes.) He did well with Tiime4Learning last year but it's just too expensive and not thorough enough (imo.) Teaching Textbooks looks like it would be perfect for him but that is a big chunk out of our schooling budget. I want to make sure it will be a good investment...deciding a $20 workbook is not our style is easier to live with than forking over $120 and finding out it didn't work for us. Anyone use this? Any thoughts? Anyone out there lol!

04-07-2010, 03:25 PM
I'm interested in this, too, so I'm listening in!

04-07-2010, 03:57 PM
I'm thinking about it too. I would love to know what people thought. I have a feeling that DS would tire of it quicky, but he swears he would love it.

04-12-2010, 05:10 AM
My daughter has been using Time4Learning the past year and I especially love it because of the wonderful animated visuals for math. She thinks it's fun and has learned tons with it. However next year I'm looking to use another core curriculum and on the fence between continuing to subscribe to T4L just for math, or switch to Teaching Textbooks. I wish I could find someone that has used both??? My daughter is in 6th grade level T4L math currently.

04-20-2010, 10:38 PM
We used TT for all 3 girls. We used Pre-Algebra, 6th grade and 4th grade. We abandoned it very early on. My 2 oldest ones felt it was way too silly. They wanted story problems to be more real world. My youngest loved it, but I realized she was enjoying the silly graphics on the computer component and not retaining anything. I know a lot of people who either work in math or whose DHs do, and they think it is great. Of course, I also know people in the same boat who think it is too easy and doesn't cover enough, especially in the upper grades. We have been through multiple math programs, and, in the end, we settled on Saxon. I don't like Saxon in the lower grades, but from 54 up, it gets the job done and is economical.

On the flip side, their customer service is very good. And I do know a lot of people who like it. But TT seems to be a program that inspires very strong feelings, either pro or con. No middle ground on opinions.

04-21-2010, 09:59 AM
We've stuck with Time4Learning for the math, because IMO it is amazingly thorough. (My youngest son's standardized math scores have gone up 15 points since we started using T4L three years ago - - not that I personally care about scores, but it shows me he is really learning!) Here is a link to a whole BUNCH of reviews of Teaching Textbooks...http://homeschoolreviews.com/reviews/curriculum/reviews.aspx?id=349

04-22-2010, 08:28 PM
We've been using it since the first of the year and are only about 10 lessons into it, that being said we've been really pleased with it so far. We're using TT4 and ds (who isn't a huge math kid) is still interested in it. I like the fact that it uses the combination of computer time and working it out on paper along with the audible learning by listening to the lectures and reading the highlights in the book. To me it is a very well rounded program. I agree that everyone I've spoken to either REALLY likes it or REALLY doesn't. I'm not sure why but there seems to be little middle ground.

05-01-2010, 04:19 PM
We LOVE TT!!! My oldest absolutely hates anything school. He did his TT math without complaint! Now it didn't make him put in any extra effort, but just getting the work done made me happy. I also liked that it took ME out of the equation.. we don't get along well and well.. me trying to teach him was like a daily migraine.

I WILL use TT for my other kids (oldest is back in PS, and I believe will stay there) when they get up to that level.. and will use TT from the time we get past what McRuffy Press offers us until they graduate.

05-01-2010, 08:24 PM
We used TT 4th grade this past year and LOVED it. For the first time, math was a non-painful event in our house...and I didn't have to deal with it! Woohoo! We will be moving on to 5th grade for my son, 4th grade for Caroline and 3rd grade for Libby.

10-01-2010, 09:02 PM
Any other, more recent thoughts about Teaching Textbooks vs. Time4Learning?

I emailed Time4Learning to see if they by any chance had or were planning to offer just one subject at a time at a discounted rate ($20 a month for the first student and $15 a month for each additional student seems steep to me for just math, and we're happy with everything else we're using), but got a very terse note back saying that they could "turn off" the other subjects but are not planning to offer single subject subscriptions.

10-02-2010, 02:04 AM
We tried so many different math curriculms from 1rst through 4th grade that it made my head spin. Every single one eventually made my son break down into tears and we would literally have to stop doing math for a month or two. With TT, there has been only 1 breakdown and he went back to it no problem. He's finishing up the 6th grade level now and will probably move on to pre-Algebra next. Sometimes he does his work using the CDs, other times like now when the laptop refuses to give up the CD, he just works out of the workbook.

Sorry that I don't have experience with TT's 4th grade level or T4L.

10-02-2010, 08:25 AM
Thanks for the report, Heidi! I appreciate it.

I was just over on your blog, so belated happy birthday wishes and welcome to the forties from someone who's been on the dark side for a little over a year now! ;)

10-02-2010, 05:14 PM
Thanks, Fiddler :-)

10-02-2010, 11:26 PM
We have one using 3rd, one on 4th and one on 5th, right now.
I love it!
What question do you have about 4th? My 10 year old finished it in the spring and my 8 year old is doing it now.

10-03-2010, 05:31 PM
We use TT and love it. Used it last year for Pre-algebra and algebra for this year. We will continue to use TT, sonny is getting great results.

10-03-2010, 07:35 PM
DD is using TT 3 this year. She's a second-grader, though. She fights me every step of the way on math if done with a more traditional format. I'm finding she does 'play' a little more with it than I'd like, but she IS learning. I have her do one lesson a week in the workbook instead of on the computer to make sure she's catching the actual concepts instead of playing it like a game. I like it, she likes it, it's good. Use the placement test on their website and have your child work through a sample lesson. That's what made the decision for us.

In comparison to T4L... we didn't use T4L for long but it did NOT go well for us. DD really didn't retain anything. It was a game to her like other game sites and she liked playing, but didn't keep any of the info in her head.

10-05-2010, 11:34 PM
We're on lesson 39 in TT4 and so far so great, although I can do without the 'buddy sounds'. Good thing you can switch off that little guy, or we'd both be going bonkers around here. Max's arch nemesis is math - he holds much internal angst over worksheets and word problems. He is definitely more of a 'right-brained' child. Last year in 4th grade we took more of a Living Math (http://www.livingmath.net)approach and it was a good foundation to all things math. Max enjoyed learning about math with the help of Penrose the Mathematical Cat, as long as he didn't have to DO any math. All was right with the world. I ordered Math U See (Gamma, I think) and in the end decided it was too involved. TT has been a good fit. I decided to go back through fourth grade math to set that foundation; he's moving through it pretty quickly.

I'm wondering if it will get less cutesy in the upper grades and hope so. I don't have much experience with Time4Learning, so can't comment on that. Just know that TT has been a good math balm in our household (thank goodness!)

10-06-2010, 12:05 AM
We decided to give Time4Learning a try for a month before committing to TT ($35/one month vs. $300/one year for 2 kids), and I'm so confused! Is there a rhyme or reason to T4L, or do you just select what your student needs to work on? Right-brained Jazz guessed at all of the answers on his first "quiz" and got an 80 percent! Now we need to go back and figure out just how to get the right answers.

10-06-2010, 09:49 AM
I'm actually letting my ds7 go pretty unschooly on T4L. I remind him occasionally that he needs to do some reading, or finish something before something else. but i'm pretty relaxed with it. You can do assignments, and there is a community for asking questions on their website. But i stay out of it unless he asks for help or asks me to come see something thats cool.

10-06-2010, 10:15 AM
Cara, is T4L all your ds is doing for math? I guess I was hoping for more structure.

10-06-2010, 09:15 PM
Yeah, it is. I'm not sure i'm thrilled about it - but he's very advanced in math and he fights me a lot doing work books. And i'm really pathetic as in i often feel exhuasted and overwhelmed. So my game plan is to put more time in to my 14 yo to try to get him caught up in math and english, and let my 7 yo, who is my youngest and a reasonable candidate for unschooling, go light this year. Yesterday he did ask for help so I brought out the lego manipulatives for him and sat through a few problems. But i'm a very relaxed homeschooler and he's getting short shrift this year. I figure he has time to do more work when he's actually mature enough to focus, which he isnt right now.