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BrendaE
02-07-2011, 08:28 PM
Weve made some changes this year in 8th grade. We went from years of get school done in the early mornings to early afternoons to something more... carefree?

In respect to the idea that teens begin having natural changes in circadian rhythm. Such as naturally staying up later and waking later in the morning. I have begun giving her freedom to regulate her hours. She has been waking at 9.30- 10 am and does just a little work, then proceeds about her day and activities like PE and being with friends and GAHHH facebook etc.. Then she takes her work up to her room around 10 PM and works until 12pm -1am, then sleeps. It seems to be keeping her in a good mood with a good attitude and her work is not suffering, in fact she is doing even better.

I dont know if this is really just.. unhealthy or going to hurt her in some way I havent thought of.

Am I the only parent of a teen making it so easy with the strange hours or?? How is your teens schedule?

I have the benefit that she has been home schooled for ages and is really great at the whole self directed process. All those hours of teaching face to face have significantly dwindled. I expect well thought out and written essay answers etc and she provides it. She even cites her sources (which I never even asked her to do).

sdvance
02-07-2011, 08:48 PM
We too have let our pre-teen daughter change her schedule to meet her changing circadian rhythms. She starts her school work much later than the younger ones. We let her sleep later, and she usually starts her work around mid-day. She's very self directed and gets everything done without any prodding. Since letting her control the schedule, she's been happier and doing great work.

BrendaE
02-07-2011, 08:54 PM
We too have let our pre-teen daughter change her schedule to meet her changing circadian rhythms. She starts her school work much later than the younger ones. We let her sleep later, and she usually starts her work around mid-day. She's very self directed and gets everything done without any prodding. Since letting her control the schedule, she's been happier and doing great work.

Hi Stacey!
We started just that way too.. It kind of bounced around from the old way to the new way a few times. This year though has been steady. When she was 11 and 12, sometimes there needed to be an attitude adjustment and it all had to do with out of whack sleeping schedules. The only worry I now have is if I let her continue on even though she is finally steady, that she might become a COMPLETE night owl. Could be genetic ;)

sallymae
02-07-2011, 09:08 PM
We start school at 1pm. My daughter stays up late also. Me too for that matter

dbmamaz
02-07-2011, 10:58 PM
The teen i'm homeschooling is the only morning person in the family other than me . . .but we've adjusted somewhat to the rythm of the family. He gets up between 8 and 9, hubby and i are done showering and dressing by 9-ish . . . on martail arts days, school starts by 10:30 and on non-martail-arts days, 11 or 11:30.

My daughter, tho, she was a serious night owl. She couldnt get to sleep before 12 or 1 and needed about 10 hours of sleep. She was chronically overtired and would get the flu for at least 2 weeks every year, and be a total beast. I worked with the school so her jr year she took only 2 classes at school, 2nd and 3rd period - our high school starts close to 9, so she would shower at night, roll out of bed around 9, dress and eat and i'd drop her off at the door just before her first class at 9:45 (something like that). The rest of her classes were independent study and night classes at the community college. Her sr year, everything was at the community college or independent study. Her first class was at 11 i think, and she sometimes had time for a shower in the morning!

Not fighting her schedule really made her happier and healthier. We didnt get along well enough to home school, but i think honoring your self, including your internal clock, is a great thing for a homeschooler to learn. If she finds there is something on a daylight schedule she really wants, she will make it happen. Plus, I remember around 20, getting up in the morning became easier.

Stella M
02-07-2011, 11:06 PM
My 11yr old gets up later. I think that's fairly typical, although my eldest daughter has always been an early bird and still is.

I think it's all personal preference. I really prefer dd to do her maths in the morning because I find I'm a better teacher at that time. I guess we have a compromise - she sleeps later than I'd like and I get her up earlier than she'd like. I also don't like her sleeping for hours while everyone else is doing morning chores etc.

The only thing I'd be worried about with that sleep schedule is whether or not she'd be grumpy on days when she has to get up earlier.

If it's working for you though, I say don't worry :)

Miguels mommy
02-08-2011, 12:49 AM
Miguel's only 8 but he's always been a night owl and needing 10-12 hours sleep. I rarely see him up before noon. He has to be in bed by 9-10 pm depending on how tired he is and we are but even if it is completely dark in his room he's still awake at 12-1 am. I feel that even resting is good for him. We sometimes let him read all night if he's completely absorbed.

BrendaE
02-08-2011, 01:01 PM
There are all kinds of articles about night owls being *coughs* geniuses... mouhahahhahahahahha :D

ok ok ! uhmm... *looks at ceiling for a moment* My daughter was ALWAYS a morning person until recently. That made raising her so hard as I am a 100% night creature. 5-6 am wake ups from cute 5 years olds "Mooooommmy, the suuuuun is on!" in sing song joy was a bit of torture. At least it was cute. So I am totally loving this circadian rhythm change. I have no idea if it will return to her morning vibe or not once she reaches her majority... it remains to be seen. I just dont want to do any damage either by LETTING her ..sleep until what seems like will eventually become noon.

Theresa
03-04-2011, 08:34 AM
My daughter has always been a night owl, from about the age of 5 or 6 on. When we started homeschooling this past November (she is 15 now) her school work and learning improved, but we fought a lot about getting up and doing it. About a week ago, I gave up; I'm tired of fighting with her. So now, she sleeps until she wakes up, and she is awake til the wee hours of the morning. I know she was still up when my husband left for work (around 430) because I heard him say goodbye to her. This sleeping arrangement is still "new" so after reading the above posts I am going to looking into the "circadian rhythm" and Hope that her attitude and school work improve. :)

this might be a double post, not sure where the first one went :)

wild_destiny
03-05-2011, 11:56 AM
Theresa, you have no cause to hang your head over your daughter's sleeping habits. What works for you and your daughter is just that--what works for you. As long as she does the work that she needs to do, what does it matter if it is at 8:30 am of 8:30 pm (or 2 am, for that matter). Anyway, I assume you are a homeschooler, at least in part, because you do not care to fit into any strict mold that society at large would thrust upon you. So hang in there and good luck with your daughter. Hope this routine works well for you both!

outskirtsofbs
03-06-2011, 11:09 AM
DD just turned 8 in January, but she's always been a nightowl. She would stay up until between 2-4 AM if I let her. Right now she usually goes to bed (on a school night) between 11:30-12:00A.M. On weekends she likes to stay up to around 1-2AM. DH gets home @ 2:15AM and she likes to wait up for him. We usually start school around 11AM-12noon at the earliest. I can already tell that if she continues being HS (through middle & high school) she will doing her studies VERY late in the day. Count me in--I'm done fighting it.

BrendaE
03-06-2011, 02:26 PM
hehehe I have a rule about no computers after midnight now... So I heard her up for the bathroom last night at 2 am. I went in to tell her JEEEZZ GO TO SLEEP ALREADY and she was laying there surrounded by books. I cant get mad at that. I just cant. So.. its 9:25 am here now..and she is still snoozin away...

GinaG
03-31-2011, 02:37 PM
My young teens always naturally switch to a late schedule. My middlest is in the throws of this right now. She seems to like getting her chores out of the way in the late mornings/early afternoons but her actual brain seems to kick in best after 8pm. I've learned to just ignore that light shining from under her door lol. As long as she is able to get up and still function when the family needs her to she can keep whatever schedule works for her. My 10 yo switched to a similar schedule but it's not working nearly as well since she isn't able to function when the family needs her to. My 16 yo use to be on the late schedule but is on a much earlier schedule this term. It seems to be working for him but I can tell he isn't getting enough sleep since it is hard for teens to fall asleep before midnight. I also noticed that within a month of moving to the earlier schedule my son got sick for the first time all school year. He's stuck with this early schedule until June but after that I will recommend he go back to a late schedule since that seems to be what keeps my family happy and healthy.

In my opinion, the idea that we have to "train" our kids to an early morning work schedule so they'll be able to hold jobs as adults is a crock. All humans have a schedule that naturally works for them and all humans are able to adapt to whatever schedule life requires of us. Afterall, no one was "trained" for graveyard or 3rd shifts yet many people successfully work those shifts their entire adult lives. Do what works for you and your kids and ignore any naysayers.

Busygoddess
03-31-2011, 03:28 PM
I don't know how they do it, but my kids are night owls & morning people, at the same time. They have bed times, because that's the only way dh & I ever get time alone. They go to bed, play or read for hours, fall asleep, wake up a few hours later, play or read some more, then go back to sleep. It's totally common for me to hear them up at 2am (I don't head to bed until 2 or 3am most nights). They regularly get up anytime between 5:30 & 7am. I am NOT a morning person. It's not an issue of tired, as long as I get 3-4 hours of sleep I'm fine. It's just that I really hate mornings, always have. Even when I don't sleep at all (I used to go about a week at a time with no sleep), I react differently to the morning hours.

Dea is still trying to get her work mostly done by lunch, that way the rest of the day is hers. I'm not sure how much longer that will last. If she can find a schedule that works for her - she's getting the sleep she needs, her chores are getting done, her schoolwork is getting done & is high quality, and she's not causing problems for any one else in the house, I'll be fine with letting her use that schedule.

obimomkenobi
04-01-2011, 01:05 PM
Padawan Learner would prefer to be a night owl, as would I, but his duel-enrollment class begins at 7:55 every other morning, so he's getting up at 8am on non-CC days just so he isn't thrown off balance too badly going back and forth between schedules. I know he's looking forward to those late summer mornings though come June! I meanly require him to stop texting and using his iTouch at 9pm every night too so he can get the sleep he needs.

sarahb1976
04-05-2011, 12:24 PM
We start at 11 usually, if we are going to do anything structured. We get up between 7-9 depending on the day and the night before.