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10-16-2010, 12:15 AM

Ok, there was something tonight I found hard to handle.

background: 14 yo son has been really struggling w math. His math teacher in 7th grade told me he was doing great and could go straight to algebra - he was doing fine with ALEKs until he crashed his computer. We struggled w LOF algebra, then did LOF prealgebra, which was fine, tried algebra again, and gave up. Over the summer, I tried to have him work through Timez Attack, but he insisted the timed part made him panic, but he really knew his facts.

This year we started with singapore new syllabus, which is one of their easier curriculum. He's been struggling with things I'm SURE he's seen before, but i felt like we were making some progress . . . i let him do 1 letter from each problem, we worked through them until he seemed to get it, then he had to do 1 more letter and that was easier. We went back a section and he did fine still. So I returned to the current section and had him do 2 word problems today. I didnt have time to review them, so I asked him to show his step-father at the end of dinner.

The first one, he was fine until an arithmatic error at the end, but he'd shown his work, so it was easy to find and fix. The second one started with the wrong answer from the first one, and then went somewhere very strange that didnt make sense. My husband asked him "ok, if you have 10 feet of cloth, how many yards is that?" He sort of muttered "10 feet, 10 feet. Well, a yard is 3 feet. So, it would be 10 divided by 3. Hmm. Well . . . "

My husband interupted him and redirected him to his problem, and he realized his error (something about converting from seconds to minutes or something)

BUT . . . . right as my husband interupted him, our 7 yo said "it would be between 3 and 4". Luckily neither husband nor 14 yo heard that . . . . but later when I mentioned it to dh, he asked Raven what the answer was, and he thought a minute, and said 3 and a third.

7 yo is very mathy, but stubborn. we've done a bit of singapore, he's doing Time4Learning, but he always asks us random math problems. Earlier that day he had asked me 5 times what is 16; I asked him how many 5s in 15, and how much between 15 and 16, and then asked what is 1 divided by 5, and he got it. So he'd learned that and applied it to a similar problem.

Ok, i know we shouldnt compare. But sometimes I do. Orion was reading better at 5 than Raven is at 7. So was dh. But i was reading more like Raven, and was one of the fastest readers in my school later on.

but . . . this math thing is huge. Raven's father is a mathematicain, seriously, 4 degrees in math. I LOVED math. Raven has the potential to be extremely good at math. Orion, i'm starting to wonder if its discalclia, because even if he seems to understand the concept, he seems to get lost in the problems and he really doesnt know his times tables. (today he was trying to figure out how many times 60 goes in to 420 and he was counting my 60's . . . he didnt recognize the 42 as 6x7.).

I'm not sure what I"m asking here, but its just frustrating - nerve wracking in part because i worry that Raven at 10 will be helping his brother at 17 with his math, and that cant possibly be good for Orion's self esteem, can it?

background: 14 yo son has been really struggling w math. His math teacher in 7th grade told me he was doing great and could go straight to algebra - he was doing fine with ALEKs until he crashed his computer. We struggled w LOF algebra, then did LOF prealgebra, which was fine, tried algebra again, and gave up. Over the summer, I tried to have him work through Timez Attack, but he insisted the timed part made him panic, but he really knew his facts.

This year we started with singapore new syllabus, which is one of their easier curriculum. He's been struggling with things I'm SURE he's seen before, but i felt like we were making some progress . . . i let him do 1 letter from each problem, we worked through them until he seemed to get it, then he had to do 1 more letter and that was easier. We went back a section and he did fine still. So I returned to the current section and had him do 2 word problems today. I didnt have time to review them, so I asked him to show his step-father at the end of dinner.

The first one, he was fine until an arithmatic error at the end, but he'd shown his work, so it was easy to find and fix. The second one started with the wrong answer from the first one, and then went somewhere very strange that didnt make sense. My husband asked him "ok, if you have 10 feet of cloth, how many yards is that?" He sort of muttered "10 feet, 10 feet. Well, a yard is 3 feet. So, it would be 10 divided by 3. Hmm. Well . . . "

My husband interupted him and redirected him to his problem, and he realized his error (something about converting from seconds to minutes or something)

BUT . . . . right as my husband interupted him, our 7 yo said "it would be between 3 and 4". Luckily neither husband nor 14 yo heard that . . . . but later when I mentioned it to dh, he asked Raven what the answer was, and he thought a minute, and said 3 and a third.

7 yo is very mathy, but stubborn. we've done a bit of singapore, he's doing Time4Learning, but he always asks us random math problems. Earlier that day he had asked me 5 times what is 16; I asked him how many 5s in 15, and how much between 15 and 16, and then asked what is 1 divided by 5, and he got it. So he'd learned that and applied it to a similar problem.

Ok, i know we shouldnt compare. But sometimes I do. Orion was reading better at 5 than Raven is at 7. So was dh. But i was reading more like Raven, and was one of the fastest readers in my school later on.

but . . . this math thing is huge. Raven's father is a mathematicain, seriously, 4 degrees in math. I LOVED math. Raven has the potential to be extremely good at math. Orion, i'm starting to wonder if its discalclia, because even if he seems to understand the concept, he seems to get lost in the problems and he really doesnt know his times tables. (today he was trying to figure out how many times 60 goes in to 420 and he was counting my 60's . . . he didnt recognize the 42 as 6x7.).

I'm not sure what I"m asking here, but its just frustrating - nerve wracking in part because i worry that Raven at 10 will be helping his brother at 17 with his math, and that cant possibly be good for Orion's self esteem, can it?