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    how incredibly pervasive the "new earth" concept was around the people I know around here. It's never brought up. I mean, how often do you have a conversation with people about pre-history? But since I have started looking for pre-history resources/curriculum, I have discovered that many people I considered perfectly sane, or at least mostly sane, are young earthers or undecided. Um, really? I have yet to find someone in my homeschool community to vent to about the trouble I'm having and now I'm afraid to ask people! I grew up Catholic in this area. We were not taught that dinosaurs and people roamed the earth together, that the earth was only 4000 years old, etc. I'm really really baffled.
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    Right now (as I type this), I am skipping my weekly bible study class. It is a highlight of the week for me due to the women and how the class is taught. Usually, I can just ignore those who interpret the bible literally without taking anything away from the class.

    But, today's lesson includes the young earth stuff and how our kids are being subverted in school. There is no way I could keep my mouth shut. I know there are others in the class who feel the same as me, so its not like everyone is scientifically ignorant. But, I really don't want to have that discussion when I know there is no way any of us will change any one else's opinion.

    Unfortunately, the young earthers are the ones who home school. So, we've just continued to decline all invitations to join their co-op. I am getting ready to start a genetics unit with my son, and of course, will include evolution and how they relate. We'll also create a list of talking points for my son to refute anyone who tries to incorrectly convince him about the true age of the earth.

    So, keep venting, and I'll vent right back!
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    I never even heard of young earth until I started homeschooling, and then it was just on forums. I figured, I live in NJ, no one around here really believes that.

    Now it turns out that half the families in my 4-H Cloverbud group are young earth, and just today I got an email about a program called "Man Walked with Dinosaurs" - a discussion about how man and all animals were created on the sixth day.

    I'm starting to feel like I can't talk science with anyone, except extremely superficially.
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    It's terribly sad that people have to change science to suit their religion. I don't remember this being an issue except on the extreme fundementalist side of things until very recently. Why the sudden change? Are they afraid that if their children know real science that they will stop believing in their chosen deity? Well, nevermind. I think I just answered my own question.
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    40-50% of Americans consistently report that they think the earth is 10,000 years old or less.

    I do think that being in homeschooling circles makes one feel like this is the pervasive Christian view, when actually pretty much every mainline Protestant church as well as the Catholic church don't believe that at all. As this is still a strongly Christian country, it's more about your level of education than your religious affiliation as to what you believe.
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    I had never really heard about it until I joined this site. Now I suspect most of the people I interact with in homeschool activities are young earthers. I find the whole idea confusing but I agree with the above comment. I think their disregard of science is based on fear. For a group of people that are supposed to trust and let God lead, they certainly use a lot of human control to make sure their kids follow the same path.
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    I really feel that a lot of people are fearful of the amount of change going on in the world.
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    Yeah, until I started looking at science choices, I didn't realize it either. My DH (who is Catholic) is like, Seriously? And I had to explain that there are whole publishing companies who are making Biblically literal science textbooks, and some of them have pretty obvious names ("Christian Kids Explore..." or "Exploring God's Creation through...") but I feel like I have to read reviews before buying online.
    I think that's a significant source of the stigma of homeschooling--people suppose we are doing it to keep our kids from having a thorough, accurate education in science (especially biology)... because some parents ARE. I would be very interested to see percentages of homeschoolers using each kind of science materials... being on a Christian homeschooling forum for a couple of months was disheartening, and I finally left.
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    I think part of it is that many of these young earth, creationist, etc. believers simply do not understand the science of evolution. Or maybe science at all. This video is what made me come to this realization: Creationist Senator wants to know how to turn E. Coli into Humans - YouTube
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonfly View Post
    I think part of it is that many of these young earth, creationist, etc. believers simply do not understand the science of evolution. Or maybe science at all. This video is what made me come to this realization: Creationist Senator wants to know how to turn E. Coli into Humans - YouTube
    I SO wish I hadn't watched that. Do you think people like that are real? No no no no...don't answer!
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