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    Okay. This one's been bothering me for a few weeks now. My dd picked up this habit of playing the Monster High games on the computer. For those of you who have no idea what it is, these are dolls marketed by Mattel for teens, and tweens( but picked mostly by 6 to 8 year olds), and they are all monsters of some variety or the other. For every type of monster, there is a particular doll to go with it. My dd's favorite is Draculara. Now you get it.
    But the messages sent by these dolls seem very inappropriate for 8 year old girls, IMO. I found this on Huffingtonpost, where somebody had raised an alarm about these dolls. The doll in question was promoting "Shaving and Plucking" to get rid of those "unwanted" hair in unwanted places. Now I'm thinking i'll put my foot down, and tell my dd to stop her obsession with these doll characters. Should I, or should I not? What do you all think?

    Btw, guess what she wanted, and got for her birthday? Yep, you guessed it right. thankfully it was only $10, and dd was happy with that. So, we actually saved some money because that's all she cared for
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    I don't know. At our co-op party there were two little girls, maybe ages 6-8, in Monster High costumes, so obviously it's something that appeals to this age group. My 8 yo dd hates tween trends for the most part - disdains the Bieber, doesn't like the Disney and Nick shows aimed at tweens, etc., so I'm not very familiar with them. I find them distasteful for any age, but I'm not sure I'd ban them from the house if she did like them. Telling her to stop her obsession... would that work for your dd? It would just egg mine on all the more.

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    My eleven-year-old likes playing on the Monster High website. She discovered it about a year ago. I'm not sure how I'd feel if she were in the 6-8 range. I think it's the "monster" aspect that appeals to her, and not the girly-stuff like plucking and shaving. Both kids love a video game called Plants vs. Zombies, and generally enjoy anything to do with zombies, vampires, goblins, dragons and other fantasy-related stuff.

    If she were 8, I would probably spend more time on the website myself to decide if it was too much, and discuss some of the issues with her. Plucking and shaving could be quite funny, since I have a couple of hairs on my chin that I would prefer didn't grow there, which the whole family knows about. We've also talked about the pros and cons of shaving legs, armpits, bikini waxing, and so on.

    Hmmmm....I suppose what I'm thinking is that taking the website or the toys away wouldn't address her obsession with it. It might be better to decide exactly which aspects of the website bother you the most, and deal with those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eileen View Post
    I don't know. At our co-op party there were two little girls, maybe ages 6-8, in Monster High costumes, so obviously it's something that appeals to this age group. My 8 yo dd hates tween trends for the most part - disdains the Bieber, doesn't like the Disney and Nick shows aimed at tweens, etc., so I'm not very familiar with them. I find them distasteful for any age, but I'm not sure I'd ban them from the house if she did like them. Telling her to stop her obsession... would that work for your dd? It would just egg mine on all the more.
    Good for your daughter for not being into all those Disney and Nick shows. Some of them are so disgusting. Especially icarly sorry if there are any icarly fans here.
    Although, I personally like Avatar the last Airbender, and think it is super cool

    You are right. If I ban them completely, it's gonna drive dd crazy, and I don't want those battles. I think I need to find a middle ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avalon View Post
    My eleven-year-old likes playing on the Monster High website. She discovered it about a year ago. I'm not sure how I'd feel if she were in the 6-8 range. I think it's the "monster" aspect that appeals to her, and not the girly-stuff like plucking and shaving. Both kids love a video game called Plants vs. Zombies, and generally enjoy anything to do with zombies, vampires, goblins, dragons and other fantasy-related stuff.

    If she were 8, I would probably spend more time on the website myself to decide if it was too much, and discuss some of the issues with her. Plucking and shaving could be quite funny, since I have a couple of hairs on my chin that I would prefer didn't grow there, which the whole family knows about. We've also talked about the pros and cons of shaving legs, armpits, bikini waxing, and so on.

    Hmmmm....I suppose what I'm thinking is that taking the website or the toys away wouldn't address her obsession with it. It might be better to decide exactly which aspects of the website bother you the most, and deal with those.
    Things that usually bother me are dolls with skimpy clothes, with flirtatious attitude, highly sexualized for their age. And I do think these Monster High dolls belong to that category. Like the Bratz girls which I despise strongly. Maybe it is because I was culturally conditioned to think of those traits as inappropriate. That begs the question, how much do dolls influence a girl's outlook on their image of their bodies. I'm asking because I never had a doll when I was a little girl. Also I never watched any shows on TV that influenced me. I grew up with a good image of self, and body, till I started developing breasts and started hiding them because I was ashamed of them.
    I don't want my daughter to grow up too fast. I'm gonna have to watch the games and see if they are anything other than some harmless fun for girls of my dd's age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lak001 View Post
    That begs the question, how much do dolls influence a girl's outlook on their image of their bodies. I'm asking because I never had a doll when I was a little girl. Also I never watched any shows on TV that influenced me. I grew up with a good image of self, and body, till I started developing breasts and started hiding them because I was ashamed of them.
    I think the amount of influence the dolls have will depend a lot on all the other influences in a girls life. My oldest grew up with Barbies, Bratz dolls, television and movies. She has always had a healthy self-image, has been comfortable with her body as it grew and developed, has a strong self esteem and doesn't dress overly risque at all. Dance has done a lot to help her with her self esteem and self confidence. Along with her and I having a strong and open relationship and a good set of friends, she's turning out pretty well. ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dottieanna29 View Post
    Along with her and I having a strong and open relationship and a good set of friends, she's turning out pretty well. ;-)
    This I think is very important. To have that open relationship with your daughter so that she can trust you and come to you if she's having any issues. I want to be that mom to my daughter, although I have such a hard time to let go of so much cultural conditioning I went through when I was a little girl growing up, and as a teen. I hope I can build that relationship with her befor it's too late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lak001 View Post
    Okay. This one's been bothering me for a few weeks now. My dd picked up this habit of playing the Monster High games on the computer. For those of you who have no idea what it is, these are dolls marketed by Mattel for teens, and tweens( but picked mostly by 6 to 8 year olds), and they are all monsters of some variety or the other. For every type of monster, there is a particular doll to go with it. My dd's favorite is Draculara. Now you get it.
    But the messages sent by these dolls seem very inappropriate for 8 year old girls, IMO. I found this on Huffingtonpost, where somebody had raised an alarm about these dolls. The doll in question was promoting "Shaving and Plucking" to get rid of those "unwanted" hair in unwanted places. Now I'm thinking i'll put my foot down, and tell my dd to stop her obsession with these doll characters. Should I, or should I not? What do you all think?

    Btw, guess what she wanted, and got for her birthday? Yep, you guessed it right. thankfully it was only $10, and dd was happy with that. So, we actually saved some money because that's all she cared for
    I'm quite liberal with what my kids watch and/or play with, but I don't see anything too bad about those dolls, personally. Of course, my daughter was watching horror movies at that age with no ill effects. It's all in the approach taken to them, in my opinion. I'd let my daughter have them if she so desired.

    It's not so much what they watch, listen to, or play with, but their relationship with you, and their peers that help form their character. At least, that's my experience.

    EDIT: And as far as the Monster High Dolls...I'm almost tempted to buy them for myself-they're pretty cool.
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    Shoe, why do I find it funny to imagine you with a monster high doll
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lak001 View Post
    This I think is very important. To have that open relationship with your daughter so that she can trust you and come to you if she's having any issues. I want to be that mom to my daughter, although I have such a hard time to let go of so much cultural conditioning I went through when I was a little girl growing up, and as a teen. I hope I can build that relationship with her befor it's too late.
    It can be really hard. You have to be able to bite back your initial shocked reaction to things, the urge to just yell "you're too young to want to know about.....!" and just calmly explain, discuss, encourage and try to avoid arbitrary restrictions. You want your kids to know that when you do say no, it's not just to be mean, you have a good reason. (that doesn't mean they'll always think the reasons are good but at least they won't feel you say no just for the sake of it).

    Strangely enough, my divorce brought my dd and I much closer. She was 8 at the time and spent a week at a time with her dad. Not having me there all the time during those weeks (although we did talk on the phone, email, text) really made her appreciate it when we could talk.
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