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    Girl Scout structure, rules, and financing are completely different than BSA. The BSA works as it does because their methods have been successful over the years. It really doesn't matter what the Girl Scouts do; what the Cub Scouts do works for well *them* and has been working well for them for over a century. They feel that selling is a useful skill to promote; I agree with them, and the option to pay the bill in another way is there for those who disagree. You seem to be contradicting yourself about being anti-selling on principle, while still promoting the GS way of raising money (selling something else - cookies). Or maybe you just don't like the taste of popcorn? Either way, it sounds more and more like an apology for deadbeat parents who don't want to teach their sons to contribute to the support of the pack, but I may be misreading that.

    I'm not sure what inclusivity has to do with the principle of selling popcorn and paying one's fair share, but boy scouts have chosen not to be all-inclusive, and that's their right also. All troops (GS and BSA) have expenses, and those expenses have to be met in some way. BSA has chosen popcorn proceeds or direct payment by parents to meet those expenses. Like I said, pick one payment method and pony up.

    QUOTE=CrazyMom;177307]According to the Girl Scouts of the United States of America website, approximately 70% of the proceeds stays in the local Girl Scout council to provide a portion of the resources needed to support Girl Scouting in that area, including a portion that goes directly to the troop/group selling the cookies. The balance goes directly to the baker to pay for the cookies.

    I pay $4.00 for a box of cookies. Girl Scouts get to keep $2.80. (some money goes to the girls who sell, some to the local council) Only $1.20 is paid to cover the manufacturer and special labeling. (Girl Scout cookies are made by Kelloggs, but they don't say Kelloggs on them....they say GIRL SCOUT COOKIES.....what a shocking concept, no?)

    Why are the Girl Scouts SO much smarter than the Boy Scouts about fair business practices, ethical treatment of participants, respect for constitutional freedoms and civil rights?

    Why can't the Boy Scouts be fair, inclusive and smart with their money.....like the Girl Scouts?

    I hope those of you in Boy Scouts will ask these questions of your leadership.[/QUOTE]
    Last edited by reefgazer1963; 11-19-2014 at 06:32 PM.

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    Yeah um, you didn't even read the first post nor have you done you research. Here's the disgusting truth:
    At this time when the cookies were $4 a box the troop got a mere $.84 thats a mere 21% of the sale price (now that they're $5/box they still get 21%). So if Boy Scouts get 30%, by my math they're ahead 9%. Girl Scout cookies are not and never were made by Kelloggs, they're made by ABC Bakers (ABCsmartcookies.com). What the mom was saying is that the troop would be better off by her making a cash donation than spending more than 3 times the money buying popcorn, not that she's a teaching her son not to contribute. Shame on you for saying that anyone is a "deadbeat parent" for choosing to not participate in something she doesn't believe is a good fit for her. It's her son, her decision. You obviously know nothing about either organization and refuse to educate yourself. If you want to use your child to sell this stuff, we won't judge you as you've judged us. If you think Girl Scouts is smart with their money, explain why they are not transparent about the funds? Every box of cookies cost the same amount, wouldn't it be easier to just tell us exactly how much money from each box goes to the troop, council and overhead? That's what cookie buyers want to know, but instead we get ambiguity like "And guess what—100 percent of the money stays local! " (GirlScouts.org). What does that even mean? It could mean the council gets 99% and the troop gets 1% it could mean it's split 50/50. I know from experience the troop gets a little over $1. So, I could buy 10 boxes of 8 ounce cookies and spend $50 only $10 of which the troop would get or I could just donate $10 and save myself $40, accomplishing the same thing. I also know that at the end of cookie season the council sells cookies to troops for $3 a box, but makes the troop sell them for $5. This means at $3 a box they STILL make profit. So why not do that all the time seems like it's in the girls best interest. And really does anyone believe this is teaching them entrepreneurship skills?! Then why hasn't GS published any facts about how many of their members go on to become successful entrepreneurs? It is a guise. Who needs to be an entrepreneur when little girls can aspire to be the CEO of Girl Scouts and make nearly $400,000 a year according to the New York Post?(She) Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts doesn't give us a dollar amount for a reason, because nobody would buy the stuff if they knew the harsh and disappointing reality. 😱

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accidental Homeschooler View Post
    That is really horrible and I thought the Girl Scouts was bad. It may be that you can't be part of the organization if you don't participate in the sale. This is the GS rule. There is a smaller fall sale and the cookies and you have to do one. The prizes for the girls are nice.

    How do the the other parents feel? You could all order one thing and then make a donation to your own troop. That is sort of what the school my kids used to attend did. The gave up on the stupid sale and just asked the parents to donate what they could. Parents were so grateful the school ended up making more money.

    Actually, the Girl Scouts earn LESS THAN 25% OF THE MONEY BACK. Per one 4$ box, girls earn 68 or 72 cents back.

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    I know this is a pretty old thread, but I feel like it is still relevant and would like to respond from my perspective as a Cub Scout mom.

    I'm sorry you thought the popcorn was terrible. In all fairness, it was probably an old bag. I have three sons who have been involved in selling popcorn for 6 years now. I have opened my fair share of bags that I've bought for myself and they are actually quite good. I was very surprised because I, like most people, was a little taken aback at first by the price. I agree the prices are a little steep, but the lowest priced item is $10, and there are also a few $15 items.

    A lot of the comments in this thread have the fee structure wrong. Trails End does NOT keep 70%, they keep 30%, but in addition to giving 70% of the purchase price to local scouting, they offer scholarships for certain levels of sales. The local council gives up to 35% of that directly to the pack/troop. The other 35% goes to the council which helps pay the salary of all the executives and helps pay to run the local scout camps. So for a $10 bag of caramel corn, our council and our pack get a total of $7.

    Not every council uses only the "show and sell" system. My boys have been knocking on doors for the past few weeks. One of the bullets of the scout law is thrift. We teach the scouts thrift by providing them an opportunity to earn money to pay their own way. They learn that everything of value is not free, hard work is rewarded. They are under no obligation to sell if they don't want to.

    Again, I'm sorry you had a bad experience with this, but please don't turn it into a "bash all Boy Scouts" fest because of it. Your experience is not the norm.

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