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    Hello
    I am new to homeschooling and new to this forum. I started homeschooling my 2 daughters, grade 3 using Calvert n grade 1 using timberdoodle.
    With grade 3 we are almost half way through the curriculum, my daughter loves doing it but I feel new calvert curriculum is lacking many things like grammar, spellings etc. She is a hardworker n you can push or direct her in any way.
    For my younger daughter i decided something less extensive as in the beginning we were spending a lot of time on calvert. She is different from her sister, a good student but lacks focus and currently going through childhood anxiety issues. So I can't push her alot. She loves the curriculum and says it's too easy for me. She is doing quite well with the help of someone who usually teaches her as it's really difficult for me to sit her down and teach her, she is different around me. But she wants to be taught my me so for next year I am thinking of making my own selections for all subjects instead of boxed curriculm.
    First question is it possible to do science, social studies together with grade 2 and grade 4 students?
    I have looked into different options for all subjects.
    Maths: Singapore maths
    ELA: for younger one AAR, SpellingYouSee, 6 trait writing (basically everything in timberdoodle)
    For older one I am confused between AAR and mosdos Ruby. I would like to use SpellingYouSee with her, 6 trait writing and some good grammar. I just don't want to make it too extensive for her.
    History I will make my own curriculum and geography I am really liking Passport to the world. Will it be enough and can I use it for both grades?
    For science my older daughter is doing hmh dimensions with virtual fusion labs and younger one is doing real science 4 kids. They both like both the sciences. We love virtual fusion labs but I don't find enough good reviews on science fusion. Other option is RSO for both and if possible together.
    I am loving redbird maths and ELA but is it enough alone or can only be used as separate resources, not making courses too extensive? My daughters are into STEM activities and would love such program.
    Also MBTP seems really challenging but its maths is yet not out and not much idea about it. If it's really amazing I can give it a try. My favorite choice of curriculum would be critical thinking, STEM based and with moral attributes.
    And also need help about which of my choices dont meet the common core standards.
    Sorry I know it's too early to decide about next year but I can't make decisions without going much deeper into each and everything and doing lots of research.
    Thanks

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    Welcome! Where do you live? If you are overseas, the products recommended might be a bit different. Some of the products youíve listed, I never heard of before, which might be if theyre foreign, or not secular.
    Yes, you can teach a lot of things together with your 4th and 2nd grader.
    You can do science together (You mentioned RSO, thats a popular choice, and even better with two kids than with one!).
    You can do an around the world sort of social studies - with an internet connection for new recipes, a few maps, and a library card, you can have more fun and learning about the world than any paid curriculum is likely to give you. (Because your kids will help pick books that they are interested in.)
    Yes, you can study literature together with both kids.
    You may want to take it easy on overdoing the language arts components.

    Ask when you have questions!
    Homeschooling DS11, DS5.

    Atheist.

    My spelling and typing are fine, its my keyboard that doesnt cooperate.

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    I am in US, I want everything to be secular, I'm myself not sure about a few items if they are secular or not. Which items you are referring to?
    Any other recommendations?

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    I am based in USA, I am not sure about passport to the world if its secular or not, rest I think are secular.
    Is it necessary to have some part of online work in every subject?
    What are your favorite online resources for all the subjects, we have used brainpop and many others with my grade 3 daughter n brainpop jr with younger one,I was thinking of using redbird math and English (online)as they love stem activities, in addition to their own curriculums but fear of overloading them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saadia View Post
    First question is it possible to do science, social studies together with grade 2 and grade 4 students?
    You absolutely can combine for science and social studies. Pretty much any content subject can be combined. It is the skill subjects like math and reading/spelling that you want to have everyone have their own unless they are extremely close in age


    Quote Originally Posted by Saadia View Post
    I have looked into different options for all subjects.
    Maths: Singapore maths
    Singapore is secular no problems there

    Quote Originally Posted by Saadia View Post
    ELA: for younger one AAR, SpellingYouSee, 6 trait writing (basically everything in timberdoodle)
    For older one I am confused between AAR and mosdos Ruby. I would like to use SpellingYouSee with her, 6 trait writing and some good grammar. I just don't want to make it too extensive for her.
    Is there a reason you don't want to use All About Spelling with All About Reading? No reason you can't use a different program that I'm aware of but if you use AAR and AAS together, they compliment each other. I have no experience with 6 trait writing but I know some schools use it so it should be secular. AAR and Mosdos Ruby don't cover the same things. AAR covers phonics, does your 4th grader really still need a phonics program? Mosdos covers literature with short stories and excerpts, no reading instruction or phonics as it is meant for children who are reading well and ready to start looking at story elements and begin literary analysis type things. As far as I know Spelling You See is secular in nature however the company isn't secular depending on what you consider to be secular, so it is your call on that one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saadia View Post
    History I will make my own curriculum and geography I am really liking Passport to the world. Will it be enough and can I use it for both grades?
    Passport to the World by Master Books does not appear to be secular. Is that the one you are talking about? It also doesn't appear to be history so much as geography and social studies, which is fine if that's what you want but I just wanted you to be aware of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saadia View Post
    For science my older daughter is doing hmh dimensions with virtual fusion labs and younger one is doing real science 4 kids. They both like both the sciences. We love virtual fusion labs but I don't find enough good reviews on science fusion. Other option is RSO for both and if possible together.
    Science Fusion is secular, I was looking at it a while back but decided against it. Nothing wrong with it, just not a good fit for us. RS4K isn't considered secular by most because its author promotes and I think includes at the upper levels the ideas of intelligent design. RSO is a good secular choice and yes you should be able to combine your students in one level.


    Quote Originally Posted by Saadia View Post
    I am loving redbird maths and ELA but is it enough alone or can only be used as separate resources, not making courses too extensive? My daughters are into STEM activities and would love such program.
    Are they coming back out with Redbird? Last I heard they were closing down the gifted program that used Redbird. I've heard lots of good things about the Redbird programs for gifted kids but like I said last I heard, they were shutting down.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saadia View Post
    Also MBTP seems really challenging but its maths is yet not out and not much idea about it. If it's really amazing I can give it a try.
    MBTP has been around for years sans math. If you want to try it, you could go ahead and get it without their math and use whatever you want for math. That's how people have been using it for years and I hear mostly positive things about it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Saadia View Post
    My favorite choice of curriculum would be critical thinking, STEM based and with moral attributes.
    And also need help about which of my choices dont meet the common core standards.
    Nothing comes to mind that meets your criteria for a favorite curriculum You would probably do best piecing your own together. Also I don't know any homeschoolers, online or IRL, that adhere to common core so you might have a hard time asking other homeschoolers for advice on common core. Most homeschooling curriculum will hit all the marks for common core though not necessarily in the order that common core prescribes. In fact many homeschool curricula go above and beyond common core standards. If it is still a worry of yours or you need to prove to charter or umbrella school that you are at least meeting common core standards, you might need to contact publishers of the curricula you are thinking of using.

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    Thanks a lot for your detailed reply. My fourth grader doesn't need phonics lessons,. I am using AAR with SpellingYouSee under timberdoodle curriculum for 1st grader so i am familiar with both of them.
    So for 4th grader mosdos ruby, SpellingYouSee and grammar would be enough? Calvert was lacking in spellings and grammar so want to have them next year.
    Thanks for telling me about redbird and passport to the world, yes it's the one by master books. I loved the concept.
    If I use library books and my own resources for history and geography for both of them together, I don't get it how can I make activities questions, project, lesson work from each book covered? I usually do some of this type work for my 1st grader but for 4th grader it needs to be quite comprehensive.
    Next year I want something less time consuming (unlike calvert) and more fun to do together.
    For science I will go with RSO.
    Anyone familiar with geography through art is it secular? Can it be used together for both?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saadia View Post
    So for 4th grader mosdos ruby, SpellingYouSee and grammar would be enough?
    I would think that would be fine for a 4th grader.


    Quote Originally Posted by Saadia View Post
    If I use library books and my own resources for history and geography for both of them together, I don't get it how can I make activities questions, project, lesson work from each book covered?
    You could google search for activities and projects to go with each topic you cover but that will be time consuming for you. You could just read the book and have the fourth grader do a narration and a notebook page about what was read. That would be plenty comprehensive for an upper elementary school age child. You could choose to just look up projects and activities for the topics that really interest your child to cut down your work a little bit.

    You could also try something like History Odyssey which is secular and put out by the same company as RSO. Then all the lessons and activities would be planned for you. You could also try something like Build Your Library and either just use the history parts or you could use the literature and science portions in place of or in addition to Mosdos Ruby and RSO. If you plan to use it in addition to those programs, I would just pick and choose which literature and science parts you use from Build Your Library. Trying to do all of them would be too much I think.



    Quote Originally Posted by Saadia View Post
    Anyone familiar with geography through art is it secular? Can it be used together for both?
    I can't remember if Geography Through Art is secular. I want to say that is not secular as in it does have references to religion however, if you really like it and are willing to over look an occasional reference in the teacher's manual then you could probably secularize it yourself. Just from a quick look at it on Rainbow Resource, it doesn't look overly preachy.

    You could certainly have your younger child tag along on any study you do with your older child. You would be surprised how much they learn just listening in on an older child's lesson and attempting their own projects at their own level. Just lower your expectations a bit for the younger one. For example if the older one is expected to write a paragraph about a topic, you might have the younger one either dictate a paragraph to you and then copy it or just have her write a couple of sentences rather than a paragraph. If your older child is to write a lab report, have your younger child draw and label a picture of what she learned. As she gets older you can up the expectations, just don't forget that she is still little. They both are really. At their ages, it is really a golden time in their education to just enjoy learning together and have fun.

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    Thank you so much, you have made it easy for me to select next year curriculum choices.

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