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    So I will be homeschooling DS 9 starting in 2 weeks. We have been working together to determine the plan and have everything figured out except math. He catches onto math concepts quite fast, but I am not sure that he is truly gifted in math. He has looked at beast academy, but doesn't love it. He thought he might like something online, I showed him CTCmath and he said no way. He loves math games and we can certainly do a lot of math games for school, but I want to make sure we cover 4th grade subjects as he has jumped back into PS in the past. Suggestions? TIA
    Beth
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    We have used the Singapore workbooks with my math-is-easy boy. (No teachers manual or anything, just the $15 workbook.) Up through the end of level 5 were great!
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    Maybe using something free, like Khan Academy, to brush up 4th grade concepts (as needed) then a placement test to see where he is at for a curriculum? Second to Singapore for a mathy kiddo. I used Mammoth Math as the spine for my mathy kid - she likes the one book, worktext aspect of it.
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    Both Math Mammoth and Singapore worked pretty well for my math-averse 4th/5th grade dd. Math games also a good idea; have him be the banker in Monopoly, count stuff for everyone in Yahtzee, etc. We used Primary Challenge Math for a break (Zaccaro) and I had other workbook things just to keep her practicing "different" kinds of math.

    Frankly I think half my kid's fear of math was fear of reading things wrong. As in, I don't get what this is asking me to do. Once I really went over with her that math was a language, she got it (but still felt very much a foreigner). It wasn't until 7th grade, though, that we found Math Minutes (free PDFs by grade) and it's too bad...the kid really enjoyed them plus they helped me figure out what she needed help with. Here's a link to 4th Grade.
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    That was going to be my suggestions exactly, Khan Academy which has a game like aspect to it (they have really improved the interface for kids and they "earn" points and badges and what not for completing lessons) and something like Singapore or Math Mammoth. I would let him progress through Khan Academy however quickly he wants to and require so many lessons a week in Math Mammoth or Singapore. If he struggles with something, have him do that topic in Khan Academy separately from his regular progression on it. The combination should be enough to keep him on track in case he goes back to ps but let him tinker with higher level ideas for a challenge.

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    You might want to do a diagnostic test like ADAMK-7 - I found that my kiddo, who was accelerated in math when I took her out, had some disturbing gaps! Chronologically she was end of 4th grade, the diagnostic test results spread from 2nd to 7th/8th grade, and she had just finished up 5th grade math in school.

    We spent a few months hitting the low-scoring things to get everything to a more even level, then charged ahead. I used Math Mammoth, for the most part, for getting things up to level, plus some individual skill items from Teacher Pay Teachers and other random sources.

    One thing I found out was that she was pissed that she had to take the test, so she just randomly answered a few questions, which didn't help her score. The other thing I found out was that while she was very good at abstract things, something like remembering the right name of each quadrilateral was challenging.

    So: make sure your kiddo knows why they shouldn't answer randomly, and maybe provide a reference sheet for things that you don't consider critical to have committed to memory.

    It as a $25 well spent and gave very detailed diagnostic info.

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    I agree with doing Khan, but I'd do another program as well, even if you do it slower or do something else that is "supplemental" (do two supplemental resources make a complete approach? Maybe) Most of the online options at this stage just aren't excellent. Even if Beast isn't right for him, maybe he would enjoy the comics. Or maybe doing some Ed Zaccaro Challenge Math would be good. Or even just diving into Singapore or MEP or Math Mammoth or something.
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    It's funny, he says it is the graphic novel that he doesn't like about beast academy. I found with DD that I had to read the graphic novel to her, she couldn't figure out which bubble should go next. Maybe DS has the same issue? But he doesn't like me to read to him like DD does. I will still use some BA, but I want something laid out too. I will look into both singapore and math mammoth. He and I liked math in focus, but I'm not sure I want to buy it again and then find he doesn't like it as the 4th grade is much harder than the 2nd grade which we did for 2 months 2 yrs ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HawaiiGeek View Post
    It's funny, he says it is the graphic novel that he doesn't like about beast academy. I found with DD that I had to read the graphic novel to her, she couldn't figure out which bubble should go next. Maybe DS has the same issue? But he doesn't like me to read to him like DD does. I will still use some BA, but I want something laid out too.
    Maybe it was the age, but dd didn't like BA for that reason either, plus monsters. Couldn't stand the idea of a 5yo professor in Life of Fred ("preposterous," she said at 9), and actually liked the color in Singapore, hated MM for being only in B&W. No pleasing these kids!!

    Good luck but I also wanted to say congrats for getting a child back in homeschooling!!
    Eclectically homeschooling 8th grade dd, who likes science as much as art...

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    I'd probably start with MM and go from there. If he already has a concept, you can sort of skip through that section or have him do a few problems for review. I like Khan for review, but not for the actual teaching. My kids all need a book or page to do math- and they do better with me actually doing the explaining vs. a computer. I love computer stuff for review and reinforcement, though. We've used BA some last year- the 3rd grade level. Some of it was good, some was too challenging, but I loved the comic book style and so did my boys!
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