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  1. #11

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    Oh, is that what that was supposed to be? Yeah, I'm guessing that she didn't need the selling....

    But I do think their are many paths to a happy, full, and worthy existence. Just my $.02
    Homeschooling two sons (14 and 16) from day one. Atheist.
    Eclectic, Slackschooler covering 8th and 10th grades this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muddylilly View Post
    Oh, is that what that was supposed to be? Yeah, I'm guessing that she didn't need the selling....

    But I do think their are many paths to a happy, full, and worthy existence. Just my $.02
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    Yea, well I just dropped my baby at college less than a week ago, so I am allowed to be sappy.

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    My in-laws went to college. Got good useful degrees. Both got stuck in dead end jobs and by the time they were 60, both were out of a job, and miserable, with the only option open to them being going back to school for retraining, or retiring. My Dad never had a degree and has worked with his hands all his life. My dad is in better health than my in-laws. (heck, i'm pretty sure most days my dad has better health than I do). My sis when she was in nursing school had a couple people in their 50's and one tough little old lady in her 60's in her classes. Unless you stay in the same field your whole life, retraining for a different job is likely. College is not the thing for everyone. If we argue that public schooling isn't for everyone, why on earth would we say college is?

    My goal as a parent is to make Tech ready for college if that is what he chooses to do, but also to realize that college isn't the be-all and end-all that my generation was told it was.

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    I hope that in 10-10+ years (when my kids will be 'coming of age') the current model of higher education will change. I hope for an array of distance education opportunities, moderate prices, certificates of completion for courses that can be fully transferable, more options to test-out and save time and money etc etc.
    mom to 3 girls: DD9, DD7, DD5

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    Oksana, that would be awesome. Not least of which because once Tech is on his own, I'll be going back to school (once I figure out what I want to be when I grow up)

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    My oldest is on track to graduate high school when he's 16. Wow - so hard to see that as I type. Kids grow so fast! It's just where he is at academically, and one of the reasons I took him out of public school was because he was bored, so I'm not going to keep boring him with information he's mastered. There's an advantage of him graduating early, as he can choose to work, take a GAP year and not lose a lot of time in comparison of his age to other peers, go to a junior college and knock out some classes and graduate college earlier, or many other options I'm sure. Other friends who homeschool in the area have kids who are either graduating around 16-17 or attending some college simultaneously, while in high school.

    I have mixed feelings about him finishing school so young, but I'd be worried about something no matter what age he was or milestone he was crossing.
    Farming, homeschooling, and living simply in Michigan's U.P. www.uppastured.com

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    7th grade here. Right now everyone's on track to finish with their age mates. I don't anticipate either of them being way ahead or anything or way behind.

    I do hope the kids will do some duel enrollment credits in high school, but we'll see. I think of that as a separate issue. I'm not keen for them to start "college" by being full time at cc during their high school years.

    I strongly believe in gap years. I'm not one for strict rules so I would never make it not optional, but it's definitely strongly encouraged here. I'm cool with them not going to college at all or taking a slow path to get there. Right now ds's dream is to dance before college, so we'll see how that pans out.

    I think homeschoolers in general do everything under the sun in terms of timing and college. But some of it is definitely a cause and effect thing - as in, a lot of homeschoolers starting college at 15 or whatever are homeschooled because of they were on that path as opposed to the other way around.
    Disclaimer: Everything I'm saying is just my own opinion, based on my own experiences teaching and with my own kids and my own life. You should just ignore me if I'm annoying you. I don't mind.

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    The unschooler part of me doesn't know how to answer this question.

    Seriously though, DS8 will live with us until he is 18, and then he will be free to decide if he wants to keep living here for awhile, or head out on his own, to do whatever it is he wants to do. I can't predict what higher education will look like in 8-10 years, but assuming nothing changes, I will encourage working toward an Associates Degree while he is in "high school". There are a lot of dual-enrollment options, and I hope he will take advantage of them while living for free with his parents.

    Right now, he's ahead in math. Assuming that continues, he will "finish" high school math with calculus at 15. But does that mean that the pursuit of knowledge ends? Why not continue with higher math, if that interests him?

    I'm probably not answering your question. If the question is, will we send him off to college at 16 if he finished the traditional high school coursework early? No, we will not. He'll just live here and study whatever is "next" , either independently or at community college. Or he'll get a job or apprentice some where. Or maybe both. I have no idea.

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    I have a hard time trying to envision it, because I have discovered that learning isn't linear, and neither is growth. Kids grow in spurts, fits, and starts, and leaps cognitive growth and the ability to understand, also seem to grow that way. So the idea that learning progresses steadily year by year hasn't panned out well, for us, so far.

    Hoping along with Oksana, that the landscape will have reformed after the earthquake we're currently in, enough to figure things out with alternatives to the outmoded (for most people) pathway to life success that worked for Baby Boomers but hasn't worked for most people since (make good grades, go to college, get a high-paying professional career, have life made).

    Nervously watching and waiting, hoping to find ways forward for each of their talents, passions, and interests as they emerge, that are also feasible in the future of emerging adults. All I know is, what worked for the Baby Boomers has hardly worked for anyone, since, unless they came from a privileged background, in which case just about anything, works.
    40-something mom of 4 kids who haven't been to school, taking it one year and one day at a time.

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    I don't think the system is "magically right" about the age. I think it's just ingrained in us as a society and what the system has come up with that at 18 you're done with HS take the next step (ie. Tech school, college, apprenticeship, a career in retail). Whether you're ready for that next step or not. Each person is an individual and some may be done earlier and some may need to take that ACT/SAT when they are 20.

    How many public schooled kids are truly ready for college at 18? SO many kids slip through the cracks in the system and move right on to college.

    Personally, once at high school age I've tried to keep my kids "on track" in the event they chose a career that requires a traditional college education (obviously not all do...my chosen career included). So far I've had one that didn't do concurrent classes (partly because I didn't know much about it), graduated last year at 18, completed two part-time semesters at the local CC this past year, plans on a heavier load this coming year with hopes of transferring to a 4-year university to finish a degree. I have another that was done with HS credits at 16, did concurrent this past year, graduated at 17 with 15h college credit completed, plans on attending CC this coming year to do more general education free, then moving on to a 4-year university to finish a degree.

    There isn't a magical age or a right answer. What's "right" is where your child is at academically and what they need to accomplish to meet the goals for their future plans. If they know that they know that they know what career is right for them when they are 13 and begin steps to pursue that, great! If they don't figure that out until they are in their 30's and can be productive members of society until then, who cares if it took that long!?
    Heather
    Mama to 4

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