PDA

View Full Version : Weekly Poll: How does politics play into your homeschooling?



Topsy
12-14-2011, 07:34 PM
It has started. The political ads on every other commercial. Here I am...trying to enjoy my Geek/Gleek crossover of Chewbacca and Finchel/Klaine and I'm being assaulted by the constant barrage of images of Republican hopefuls. And I don't even live in Iowa!!! (I'm sorry huskers, but I thought you peeps were going to keep those ads in-state for a few more weeks...sigh!!) :rolleyes:

I'll admit I'm a bit apolitical myself, but my kids have constant questions about the upcoming primaries thanks to all these promotional pieces. So, I'm trying to address their questions as they come in, but I haven't done any kind of formal homeschooling unit on the American political process (mostly because I fear it would be laced with my own cynicism...might ruin the educational curve??)

I'd love to know if you all are a bit more pro-active than myself, or also take the "I'll-address-it-when-it-comes-up-like-I-do-with-questions-about-sex" approach to politics. Let's find out......

Amanadoo
12-14-2011, 07:52 PM
Th Huz and I TALK about politics all the time. We are active in any way though, except by voting. But, like religion, it's one of our favorite things to talk about and anyone around at the moment usually gets drawn into the fold, including kids. It's actually JUST like religion, because we say "this is what I believe, this is what your father believes (and why), and you should know other people think otherwise. You get to decide what you think later, and you can change your mind."

Busygoddess
12-14-2011, 08:08 PM
I went with other. We are not big on politics here. We don't focus on modern government regularly. When politics/governments come up in our other studies, we cover them. My dh & I talk about politics sometimes, but not that much. We don't watch regular TV anymore, it's all either Netflix or PBS, so we haven't been bombarded with the recent political ads. However, this next year, Dea will be doing her high school U.S. Government course. I'm having her do it this next year, because it will be the only of her high school years that actually has an election. It just makes more sense to me to cover it during an election, when they can witness so much of the process first hand. They get some basics of Government during our U.S. History studies, but don't cover it in-depth until high school.

Greenmother
12-14-2011, 08:56 PM
I think that homeschooling is an innately political act and a form of protest. So to me it is all political. Right now we live in a politically charged atmosphere--more so than I can recall in my lifetime, equal perhaps to the labor movement of the last Depression or perhaps the Civil Rights/anti-War movement of the 50s and 60s. I don't think that anyone at this point can passively avoid politics, because there are so many of our civil rights that are up in the air in America. And neither party is representing the people, but instead chooses to be led by the nose, via corporate lobbyists.

Indefinite Military Detention of American Citizens, SOPA, the Supreme Court Ruling that Money is Speech and Corporations are people have completely upended the notion of one-person, One-vote. Hiding the names of corporate and private donors to campaigns limits the ability of the people to contextualize candidates and campaigns, the Patriot Act as a stand alone document that glorifies what could become the keystone of an Authoritarian, Plutocratic Oligarchy, the erosion of the wall of separation between church and state these last 20 years, and the loss of women's rights to reproductive self determination, hiding dangerous chemical recipes under the guise of proprietary ingredients when in fact it is just a ruse to hide toxic waste that is being injected into our soil and groundwater [via fracking] in order to avoid legal liability for property damage and personal injury, the loss of personal property rights to NAFTA, and entire wars fought for oil under the guise of terrorism.

We live in a screwed up time in history. The bad hair era of the U.S. :(

I saw this somewhere else on the net and I think it's a good idea: Create a wall of separation between corporation and state.
Constitutional Amendment. There are certain Supreme Court Justices that need to be fired for failing to maintain proper distance between certain wackadoo political movements too. Protecting their free speech is one thing. But furthering their wacked out tax-rebel-schemes, and their unholy alliance with big corporations that are robbing us six ways til sunday is way way over the top.

So yea, all that stuff gets worked into the curriculum where appropriate and the kids listen to the news with me, listen to me and the hubby talk about these things and read about historically similar circumstances in American and in global history as well.

MrsLOLcat
12-14-2011, 08:58 PM
For me, teaching politics is like teaching religion. I try to touch on all different perspectives, but I don't really get into it. DH loves to talk politics, though, so sometimes he delves into that realm. I'm happy to let him teach it. It's the one topic he *does* enjoy going over with the kids.

dottieanna29
12-14-2011, 09:01 PM
I voted other because my guys are a little young for deep discussions of politics. We will probably cover it as it comes up in our curriculum and will answer questions as they are asked but neither dh or I are particularly interested in politics. I think they are all a bunch of power hungry liars regardless of which party they belong to and it's like trying to pick between two evils.

farrarwilliams
12-14-2011, 09:09 PM
I went with other. Politics pays the bills around here. Dh's sport is politics. Well, and baseball. But mostly politics. The man can name all the senators and governors off the top of his head. He knows what congressional district you live in. No joke. Many of our friends, and the kids' friends' parents, all work for the government, so it comes up all the time. There were a lot of "so and so's mommy/daddy won't be able to work if the government shuts down" conversations this year. Our church is pretty political. We talk politics and watch Stewart in front of the kids sometimes. It's in the air here.

But... I don't know. I've become less political as I've gotten older. I still do want to work in DC voting rights into our US history curriculum this year, but we're going so slow, so my intention to cover it with the Constitution hasn't even happened yet. And we haven't done much with it to integrate politics into homeschooling. Also, we're definitely of the mind that, while some things are things we want to teach overtly to the kids, most of it is up to them to decide what to think. Trying against the indoctrination.

Stella M
12-14-2011, 11:32 PM
Well. We did study "government" last year. As in houses of parliament, elections blah blah boring. I suppose I will have to do that some time with ds.

Otherwise, as in not an official part of 'school', they just get indoctrinated by me.

"Tell me again honey, what will you never do ?"
"I will never vote Liberal."
"Good child, a smiley face stamp for you!"

Um. They read Youngzine for balance. Although that is pretty left-neutral so...no balance. And, you know, radio and stuff and me talking to them...

And they are really hoping I don't make them follow the Presidential election like I did last time.
"Mum, is this relevant to us ?"

Every time I vote they get the 'be grateful to the suffragettes and be glad you can vote in safety' speech and that's getting old for them too, but it's engraved on their brains by now.

I guess they are allowed to choose when they grow up, but if they go Young Liberal ( that would be like young Tea Party ) it will kill me.

JinxieFox
12-15-2011, 05:03 AM
I chose avoid because we basically hate politics. Blah! Some people love to talk about it and that's totally cool for them, but I can't stand it. It's just not of interest to me. In fact, on Monday somebody half my age gave me a hard time because I said that I feel that politics is a "to each, their own" matter.

Yeesh! Excuuuse me for believing that people should think for themselves, and that there is nothing wrong with *not* having an interest in politics! :rolleyes:

If we are still homeschooling when my son is older, I will certainly teach him about government. But it can wait for now.

jess
12-15-2011, 12:53 PM
For us, it's not (at this point) a formal part of curriculum, but comes up in conversation on a regular basis.

Gabriela
12-15-2011, 01:26 PM
I think that homeschooling is an innately political act and a form of protest. So to me it is all political.

Yes! Me too.

Especially because of where we live, we have to talk to our son a lot about politics. Several of our friends have been politically assassinated and he wanted to know why.
After all, this is his world, and he needs to know what's going on. I think the later you leave it, the more shocking it is to suddenly find out.
I'm very grateful to my parents for having involved me in their political and social actions, like marches and protests, from a very young age.
It's hard, but it's the truth, and I don't want to hide the truth from my son.

coloradoalice
12-15-2011, 06:49 PM
We talk politics all the time. My kids have watched debates and state of the union addresses and presidential addresses and both of the conventions in 2008. I try to not watch much news with them because I think they are too young for it yet but things still manage to come up in conversation all the time. I'm glad for it, I feel like I was insanely politically stupid until my 30's and my government and political understanding is still not as good as I would like it to be. I want them to know about the world they live in and how they can affect things.

Theresa Holland Ryder
12-15-2011, 07:28 PM
We don't have TV, and yet we still get exposed to a lot of political debate out in the world and on the Internet. I chose "other", because I divide studying government into what I think of as Civics, and politics as a different thing altogether. We talk about how our government works and we talk about what's going on with various political activities as separate subjects.

Recently we've been watching "30 Days" on Netflix, which has brought up some pretty interesting political discussion in our family. And we've been talking about Lowe's and other advertisers dropping ads on TLC's "American Muslim" show. Alongside of that, my daughter and I had a really interesting discussion about head coverings and their role in modesty, personal identity, and religious politics. So some features of political discussion are "as they come up" around our house, while others, like how our government works, are addressed less frequently and more formally.

Greenmother
12-15-2011, 08:12 PM
Oh wow, to be a part of those conversations Theresa. They sound very interesting!

lakshmi
12-15-2011, 11:31 PM
I think that homeschooling is an innately political act and a form of protest. So to me it is all political. Right now we live in a politically charged atmosphere--more so than I can recall in my lifetime, equal perhaps to the labor movement of the last Depression or perhaps the Civil Rights/anti-War movement of the 50s and 60s. I don't think that anyone at this point can passively avoid politics, because there are so many of our civil rights that are up in the air in America. And neither party is representing the people, but instead chooses to be led by the nose, via corporate lobbyists.

Indefinite Military Detention of American Citizens, SOPA, the Supreme Court Ruling that Money is Speech and Corporations are people have completely upended the notion of one-person, One-vote. Hiding the names of corporate and private donors to campaigns limits the ability of the people to contextualize candidates and campaigns, the Patriot Act as a stand alone document that glorifies what could become the keystone of an Authoritarian, Plutocratic Oligarchy, the erosion of the wall of separation between church and state these last 20 years, and the loss of women's rights to reproductive self determination, hiding dangerous chemical recipes under the guise of proprietary ingredients when in fact it is just a ruse to hide toxic waste that is being injected into our soil and groundwater [via fracking] in order to avoid legal liability for property damage and personal injury, the loss of personal property rights to NAFTA, and entire wars fought for oil under the guise of terrorism.

We live in a screwed up time in history. The bad hair era of the U.S. :(

I saw this somewhere else on the net and I think it's a good idea: Create a wall of separation between corporation and state.
Constitutional Amendment. There are certain Supreme Court Justices that need to be fired for failing to maintain proper distance between certain wackadoo political movements too. Protecting their free speech is one thing. But furthering their wacked out tax-rebel-schemes, and their unholy alliance with big corporations that are robbing us six ways til sunday is way way over the top.

So yea, all that stuff gets worked into the curriculum where appropriate and the kids listen to the news with me, listen to me and the hubby talk about these things and read about historically similar circumstances in American and in global history as well.

Yeah, what she said. Not teaching government in the traditional sense, but hearing a lot about what is going on and how it is all fuxt up...


We don't have TV, and yet we still get exposed to a lot of political debate out in the world and on the Internet. I chose "other", because I divide studying government into what I think of as Civics, and politics as a different thing altogether. We talk about how our government works and we talk about what's going on with various political activities as separate subjects.

Recently we've been watching "30 Days" on Netflix, which has brought up some pretty interesting political discussion in our family. And we've been talking about Lowe's and other advertisers dropping ads on TLC's "American Muslim" show. Alongside of that, my daughter and I had a really interesting discussion about head coverings and their role in modesty, personal identity, and religious politics. So some features of political discussion are "as they come up" around our house, while others, like how our government works, are addressed less frequently and more formally.

Yes saw that show, and discussed wearing the hijab and the burqa and all that with the girls. How it made me want to cover my hair, then I could just forget about hair cuts.

I've been coming to terms with the fact that in college all the kids I thought were cool were political. They are still political but not necessarily radical. What I am coming to terms with is that I am radical and not necessarily political.

zcat
12-16-2011, 11:46 AM
I don't have a big interest in politics.
I don't avoid speaking about things as they cross our path but I've never made it a lesson.

theWeedyRoad
12-16-2011, 12:16 PM
We only talk about it when it comes up, but that reflects me not how I feel.

For the last few years, I've watched too much, read too much, listened too much. And it felt like I fell into Alice's rabbit hole. NOT helped by the professor in my sister's politics class who was telling her about the EXACT same things I had read (he was an entirely separate source.. I don't even know the guy). I'm afraid of my own country, and I don't want that passed onto my kids (just in case I'm .... paranoid).

So.. I gloss it over so they don't feel as powerless as I do. I emphasize voting, the Constitution, the Bill of Rights. I talk to dh a lot, so I'm sure they overhear some of it, but I want them to have their innocence left- and their belief that if you are a good, moral person then you have rights and responsibilities. When they get older, I'm sure we'll have different conversations altogether.

inmom
12-16-2011, 01:16 PM
Personally, I'm fairly apolitical. However, dh is very much into following politics. We all follow the political news, watch debates, follow elections. The kiddos did government last year, so I guess they got a few lessons in politics then. However, we normally just discuss it as part of every day conversations.

Dd will be old enough to be a poll worker (but not old enough to vote, ironically) after this next set of elections. She's hoping she gets the chance.

JinxieFox
12-16-2011, 01:58 PM
Personally, I'm fairly apolitical.

Ooh, "apolitical". I like it! :D Every time I'm here, I keep looking for ways to rep people and then I remind myself, "Right, no reputation points here." LOL

Jeni
12-16-2011, 02:31 PM
I picked "Other". We are not super political, but we do talk about politics and political issues. We get very involved in the presidential elections, talk about it for months and months ahead of time, who we are voting for and why. My youngest told everyone he wanted to name the new baby Sarah Palin... Yuck, but you can see that she came up in conversation and he picked up on it.

Stella M
12-19-2011, 05:12 PM
I'm so glad you went for Alba :)

kailuamom67
12-19-2011, 06:25 PM
It's not part of the curriculum, but there's no avoiding it in our house and in our lives. My kids have been to school board meetings, and DS1 even addressed the board, trying to save our music program, also when we were trying to save the garden at the ps he went to when he was little. Obviously, thats our local level politics. Then during the presidential campaign in 08, we drove 4 hours to see Obama speak. I want them exposed to live politics, not just the picture of politics that we see on tv. The kids watched the debates with me last time, (08). This season, we aren't watching the debates due to the current cast of characters. Once the presidential candidates are final, we will watch the debates again.

Greenmother
12-19-2011, 08:25 PM
OMG Jeni--you just made grill cheese shoot out my nose!

Holy smoke!

ponygirl
12-20-2011, 05:37 AM
We are in Australia so politics is a little different here.
I wouldn't say we as a family are political. We don't discuss it unless some poli has made a right tool of themselves and the kids ask whats going on or some political agenda has come up, ie "Carbon tax" of late.
Hubbie and I are from different political camps he votes for the party me for policy. I'm whats called a swing voter.
Ds has asked a lot about voting (it's compolsary from 18 here).
At some stage I would like to do a unit study on Australian politics primarily Parliment and how it works purely for selfish reasons as I have little idea how it works and I wanna know exactly.

pnctink
12-20-2011, 04:51 PM
I don't avoid it completely, but I would rather discuss other topics. There were a few politicians in my family (both Dem and Rep.) and all the arguing turned me off of being interested. I like the idea of treating it like religion by discussing all sides.